well there are ways to find out your "core" morals/feelings

you can find those out, but only looking through each of your personas

that's what therapists do

ever heard of drugs?

I don't believe drugs reveal core beliefs

as far as i know taking shrooms is a highway to "enlightentment"

you're fundamentally changing your perception of the world when using drugs, it doesn't necessarily give you any clarity on who you are as a person. it's like how "truth serums" don't exist

well i disagree

I only heard of drug stores. Weird naming if you ask me. And taken shrooms is a sure fire way into depression.

you may be able to determine your core values by what changes and what doesn't when you get high, but that's not the drugs, that's introspection

as it leaves you mind more vulnerable to new ideas it also eases thinking about who you really are

I think we've missed the mark, here, though

Just a little bit

whether or not identity has any value in society: it does, in that society is made of individuals, who all have and value their own identities, but it shouldn't be given extra weight IMO such as use in governing

i have taken shrooms twice as far as i know i already had quite a depression when i took them the first time but after i took them the second time ive been doing better then i have in the last 5 years

kinda like how you cant say just dont be sad to people who are depressed but then you saying it to yourself

well since everyone has an identity we dont have to take it into consideration

how in a sum like -2/-2 you can leave out the - as they cancel each other out

but on a way more complicated scale

kinda

saying "but he's a good person" in a court of law wouldn't, and shouldn't hold up

because everyone thinks of themselves as the good guy

sorta

i would say as the right guy more then the good guy

i once saw a video of 3 cops in a shootout in some barbershop where a kid pulled a gun out and one of the bystanders said that the kid who pulled his gun out was "a good kid"

yes, but people generally don't see themselves as "evil" on a subconscious level

yeah, that wouldn't fly in court

well id say ask some vietnam veterans what they think about their time in vietnam

im pretty sure not everyone saw themselves as the good guy

I am evil, i accept it

would you still be able to call yourself good after you call in a napalm strike on some peasants village?

no, and that's what guilt is: the psychological dissonance between your subconscious saying you're good or right or whatever, and your conscious mind saying you're bad

some people, like myself, have an overactive consciousness that constantly overwhelms them by saying "you're not good, look at every inconvenience you've ever caused, you can't be good" which causes extreme dissonance and stress

others, like psychopaths, feel no dissonance, because their concept of good is entirely based on their subconscious view that they are good

therefore, by definition, they cannot be bad

And if I am at peace with my being "Bad"?

well i only have my subconciousness screaming at me and my conciousness is more like another person so count me in armchair therapists

i do however like shoegaze

@Khanclansith this goes deeper than acceptance. trust me, I took a psych course once #armchairexpert

shoegaze?

the genre?