Message from @Zak the Antler Mutt

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2019-01-04 16:31:53 UTC  

Yes, I think I heard something about that. That would be great and a continuation of the repeal of the Title IX changes.

2019-01-04 17:08:10 UTC  

To start this off, I wanna say that politically, I'm moderate, and that in no particular way do I align 100% with any political group anywhere on the spectrum, but I feel as if all people with moderate political inclinations ever do is talk. Debates, arguments, trolling, making fun of other people, etc. I feel like we've, in a way, talked too much. We've let malignant people take office in our country, who have a complete disregard for the people and only care about how many more digits they can add to their checks. We've let an anarchist terrorist group spring up and run rampant through America, damaging property and hurting dozens of innocent people, sometimes even for their race, gender, religion, or even under the false pretence that they are "Nazis", which the word itself is incorrectly used. And because this anarchist group has sprung up, real neo-fascists have come out of the woodwork. We have let these egregious events take root and fester within our nation, and other nations around our world. And what have we been doing? Debating, trolling, __talking__. We have sat idly by and run our mouths while the world, in one capacity or another, begins to tear itself to bits.

I believe we need to take an active stance against those who wish to see our freedom, rights, and identity destroyed. I believe we need to give ourselves a voice not just in the words we say, but the actions we cause. This isn't a call to extremism, nor is it a call to violence. People like Antifa, the various neo-fascist worker parties of America, and the political imbeciles on capital hill do not care for logic, reason, or debate. It's time we wake up and see that. We need to be the metaphorical "Hands and Feet" of the politically moderate, otherwise we will continue to be trampled by the far left and more extreme right wing groups.

2019-01-04 17:25:06 UTC  

Why be moderate, when I can be accurate?

2019-01-04 17:25:24 UTC  

Go ahead.

2019-01-04 17:31:54 UTC  

@Zak the Antler Mutt There's a lot of good points in that write-up.

2019-01-04 17:32:29 UTC  

I am increasingly disillusioned with debate. You cannot win a game of chess against someone who plays checkers.

2019-01-04 17:32:43 UTC  

Thank you. I am eager to see a rebuttal though. I wanna make sure I'm held accountable for any mistakes I make.

2019-01-04 17:33:17 UTC  

You can be sure of that. If people love one thing, it's trying to poke holes into arguments.

2019-01-04 17:34:15 UTC  

I have come to the conclusion that the current political landscape primarily boils down to two fundamentally incompatible social models.

2019-01-04 17:35:04 UTC  

There are many such divisions, but one that is frequently pointed out is that of collectivism/socialism vs. meritocratic libertarianism.

2019-01-04 17:35:46 UTC  

We have been at a virtual stalemate for years now and those who are least willing to debate have had the most success at getting control over our institutions.

2019-01-04 17:36:22 UTC  

If people are not accessible to reason, there is only one thing one can ultimately do: segregate them.

2019-01-04 17:37:44 UTC  

There are people who want a meritocratic society, me for example, and I think other people being entitled to what I produce is fundamentally immoral. That model cannot coexist with socialism. We cannot make half of society socialist and the remainder capitalist.

2019-01-04 17:40:03 UTC  

If people who want socialism are so convinced it works, have your socialism elsewhere. Even if I can convince some socialists, I will never be able to convince all and I cannot be libertarian in a system that destroys meritocracy. If we cannot decide on either system, the only resolution is to segregate fundamentally incompatible world views. We should finally resign ourselves. The longer we delay, the fewer our options. The time for debate is over. Any more can cost the real loss of life, if it hasn't already. This is not a pass time, like a game of chess, lives are on the line and our futures.

2019-01-04 17:42:48 UTC  

Mhm. I completely agree. However, we also need to remember to balance the politics with the people in our lives. In a way, they are ultimately the drive for us to change things so we can better everyone's lives.

2019-01-04 17:45:11 UTC  

People often seem to see politics as something separate from everyday life. I do not see politics that way. Politics should be based on the needs of our private lives. If it is so abstract and remote as to be disconnected from people's lives, we are already off track with where our politics are.

2019-01-04 17:46:26 UTC  

I can no longer achieve such a balance because the politics in their current form have had a deep impact on my life. As the expression goes, if you don't take an interest in politics, politics will take an interest in you.

2019-01-04 17:52:07 UTC  

I've been able to balance both out thankfully.

2019-01-04 17:55:09 UTC  

But the CTRL-Left keeps trying to drag everything into their web of madness

2019-01-04 17:56:18 UTC  

So fucking cut yourself out and sever yourself from their influence. Make it as minimal within your sphere as possible.

2019-01-04 17:57:50 UTC  

I like Battletech, its a game of chess with walking tanks, now the CTRL-Left is hell bent on destroying it so that it matches their political views.

2019-01-04 17:57:54 UTC  

I use Linux. It's the Meta-Left.

2019-01-04 17:58:09 UTC  

Stop using Linux, you masochist.

2019-01-04 17:58:11 UTC  

X3

2019-01-04 17:58:13 UTC  

Mac users can call them Option-Left.

2019-01-04 18:00:17 UTC  

People who like fantasy Sci-fi epics like Doctor Who have had it take over their show. I love Star Wars and now the production company behind Star Wars is over run with these new NAZIs who hate me for wanting an epic space opera not shitty current year propoganda

2019-01-04 18:01:05 UTC  

True, true.

2019-01-04 18:01:11 UTC  

Also, star wars?

2019-01-04 18:01:22 UTC  

I have a force fx black series saber.

2019-01-04 18:02:37 UTC  

I have complaints about the Last Jedi, and when I voice them I am told I am "A russian bot," "A manbaby" "An incel that hates women!" and other shit.

2019-01-04 18:03:25 UTC  

I want good movies to entertain me, not to be insulted for calling out crap.

2019-01-04 18:03:56 UTC  

It's not worth it to engage the comments. Basically, if you don't like the movie, drop your comment, and never look back.

2019-01-04 18:05:13 UTC  

Politics came for me even when I didn't want it to. And it will come for you to.

2019-01-04 18:05:29 UTC  

It does all the time, I just don't give it the power to hurt me.

2019-01-04 18:08:08 UTC  

Why should I have to give up on the things I like because of hatefueled bigots injecting their venom into everything and attacking me all the time? And how much longer before it isn't my hobbies anymore but me myself?

2019-01-04 18:09:30 UTC  

I think that your paranoia is already giving them more power than they will ever have.

2019-01-04 18:10:55 UTC  

My work is under attack, I am a freelance armorer, I do inspections on DIY firearms. There is a bill out there to ban DIY firearms work.

2019-01-04 18:14:11 UTC  

Then defend yourself, but don't be hostile. Be reserved, and you will be more sensible than those who attack you.

2019-01-04 18:22:24 UTC  

As much as I try to reason and rationalize with people I am attacked as a monster for not bowing down to these new-wave "Progressive" NAZIs.

2019-01-04 18:24:22 UTC  

Can you stop crying, you Russian bot?