Message from @Existence is identity

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2019-02-13 00:42:30 UTC  

About the left's rejection of a prior knowledge being able to describe reality, yes, if that's what you meant

2019-02-13 00:43:32 UTC  

So now you tell me, whats the right answer?

2019-02-13 00:44:06 UTC  

To what question?

2019-02-13 00:44:22 UTC  

Why do you reject the left's premises?

2019-02-13 00:44:38 UTC  

What premises?

2019-02-13 00:44:50 UTC  

They reject logic.

2019-02-13 00:45:21 UTC  

Premises can be illogical

2019-02-13 00:45:33 UTC  

But, what I discussed

2019-02-13 00:45:43 UTC  

Alogical really.

2019-02-13 00:45:45 UTC  

What did they get wrong?

2019-02-13 00:50:23 UTC  

The left is too broad a term. If I'm criticising empericists, then I would simply point out that if only empirically testable claims can be true, then the claim that only empirically testable claims can be true can't be true because it is not empirically testable.

2019-02-13 00:51:29 UTC  

I shouldve used a posteriori knowledge instead of empirical

2019-02-13 00:51:40 UTC  

They refer to both

2019-02-13 00:51:58 UTC  

The former refers specifically to Kant's terms

2019-02-13 00:53:04 UTC  

They reject that a priori knowledge is possible, so I don't see a difference.

2019-02-13 00:54:25 UTC  

How are you different?

2019-02-13 00:54:41 UTC  

Do you believe contradictions exist?

2019-02-13 00:55:09 UTC  

No.

2019-02-13 00:55:59 UTC  

The cosmos is a tautology, bruh.

2019-02-13 00:56:10 UTC  

Let me play devil advocate

2019-02-13 00:56:39 UTC  

So we know that the sun exists but how do we know it will rise tomorrow?

2019-02-13 00:56:57 UTC  

The sun existing is factually true

2019-02-13 00:58:42 UTC  

How do we know the sun exists?

2019-02-13 00:58:56 UTC  

No, that it will rise tomorrow

2019-02-13 01:00:19 UTC  

How do we know it will rise tomorrow?

2019-02-13 01:00:41 UTC  

Yes

2019-02-13 01:00:58 UTC  

What's your point?

2019-02-13 01:01:19 UTC  

Just answer

2019-02-13 01:02:07 UTC  

We have good reason to believe it will, but we can't know with absolute certainty.

2019-02-13 01:03:09 UTC  

is the russian thing really over?

2019-02-13 01:03:46 UTC  

What Russian thing?

2019-02-13 01:04:20 UTC  

@halfthink How do you know the sun exists?

2019-02-13 01:04:32 UTC  

Our mind is flawed right?

2019-02-13 01:04:43 UTC  

For example hallucinations

2019-02-13 01:05:40 UTC  

Its our own subjective experience

2019-02-13 01:06:28 UTC  

Sure.

2019-02-13 01:06:58 UTC  

So?

2019-02-13 01:07:04 UTC  

So what?

2019-02-13 01:07:41 UTC  

Then how do we know things posses an identity?

2019-02-13 01:08:43 UTC  

They are intersubjectively verifiable.

2019-02-13 01:08:51 UTC  

How?