Message from @Existence is identity

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2019-02-13 00:53:04 UTC  

They reject that a priori knowledge is possible, so I don't see a difference.

2019-02-13 00:54:25 UTC  

How are you different?

2019-02-13 00:54:41 UTC  

Do you believe contradictions exist?

2019-02-13 00:55:09 UTC  

No.

2019-02-13 00:55:59 UTC  

The cosmos is a tautology, bruh.

2019-02-13 00:56:10 UTC  

Let me play devil advocate

2019-02-13 00:56:39 UTC  

So we know that the sun exists but how do we know it will rise tomorrow?

2019-02-13 00:56:57 UTC  

The sun existing is factually true

2019-02-13 00:58:42 UTC  

How do we know the sun exists?

2019-02-13 00:58:56 UTC  

No, that it will rise tomorrow

2019-02-13 01:00:19 UTC  

How do we know it will rise tomorrow?

2019-02-13 01:00:41 UTC  

Yes

2019-02-13 01:00:58 UTC  

What's your point?

2019-02-13 01:01:19 UTC  

Just answer

2019-02-13 01:02:07 UTC  

We have good reason to believe it will, but we can't know with absolute certainty.

2019-02-13 01:03:09 UTC  

is the russian thing really over?

2019-02-13 01:03:46 UTC  

What Russian thing?

2019-02-13 01:04:20 UTC  

@halfthink How do you know the sun exists?

2019-02-13 01:04:32 UTC  

Our mind is flawed right?

2019-02-13 01:04:43 UTC  

For example hallucinations

2019-02-13 01:05:40 UTC  

Its our own subjective experience

2019-02-13 01:06:28 UTC  

Sure.

2019-02-13 01:06:58 UTC  

So?

2019-02-13 01:07:04 UTC  

So what?

2019-02-13 01:07:41 UTC  

Then how do we know things posses an identity?

2019-02-13 01:08:43 UTC  

They are intersubjectively verifiable.

2019-02-13 01:08:51 UTC  

How?

2019-02-13 01:09:14 UTC  

We can understand each other through language can't we?

2019-02-13 01:10:02 UTC  

But why is that?

2019-02-13 01:10:56 UTC  

Logic is universal.

2019-02-13 01:12:35 UTC  

How do you know that?

2019-02-13 01:12:51 UTC  

Its your own subjective experience

2019-02-13 01:15:15 UTC  

Experience is filtered through logically derived a priori knowledge. Logic does not depend on experience.

2019-02-13 01:15:43 UTC  

Our understanding of experience depends on logic.

2019-02-13 01:15:53 UTC  

Based

2019-02-13 01:16:14 UTC  

Well, I guess you arent a Skeptic

2019-02-13 01:16:31 UTC  

If you think logic is an absolute?

2019-02-13 01:16:41 UTC  

The only absolute.

2019-02-13 01:17:02 UTC  

Not exactly

2019-02-13 01:17:23 UTC  

Heres the Objectivist view

2019-02-13 01:17:40 UTC  

"Any theory that propounds an opposition between the logical and the empirical, represents a failure to grasp the nature of logic and its role in human cognition. Man’s knowledge is not acquired by logic apart from experience or by experience apart from logic, but by the application of logic to experience. All truths are the product of a logical identification of the facts of experience."