Message from @Scarlet
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Abolishing ICE would be both very difficult/Alot of work, and i likely not gain them the result they want
It's not a very well thought out stance
Oh no it is a well thought out stance
When I asked my friend who's a lefty about it she thought they monitored the border too >.>
I wonder how many people have that misconception
Only for me to google and inform her that that's a different branch of Homeland security
Because that's a entirely seperate agency
If its not in a cnn article dont expect them to know it
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We arent talking about people who love CNN though.
people rarely take the time to research issues, theyll hear something and form an opinion on it without having a solid base
This comes from the 'Justice Democrats' and what's her name, Ocasio Cortez
Yeah i got that name right.
These are people in a similar camp to Bernie
Not Clinton
does she think that ICE patrols the borders?
Ocasio Cortez? I cant imagine she does. She must at least know the gist (IE; Google search) of what they do if she put it in writing as part of her platform
Yea no shes definetly had someone think out her paltform for her
What that is exactly depends on how tinfoil hat you want to get
"Ocasio-Cortez wants to abolish Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and believes there should be a "clear" path to citizenship for unauthorized immigrants.
"As overseen by the Trump administration, ICE operates with virtually no accountability, ripping apart families and holding our friends and neighbors indefinitely in inhumane detention centers scattered across the United States," Ocasio-Cortez said on her website.
She also wants more protections for young unauthorized immigrants known as "Dreamers" and immigrants who have temporary protections from deportation."
I believe she has the correct understanding of ICE here?
that sounds like it yea
rather silly, since the name would just change and the same policy would be carried out
its not as if we can stop enforcing borders all together
Well, eh, maybe.
If you actually ended up abolishing ICE, it'd be a big job, and you'd probably end up changing the rules that make ICE do this in the first place
But again, it's much easier to simply reform ICE
Then kill it
Here's something she was handing out, summary of her platform
That's the thing, she has things that everyone wants in there, but others that are just far-fetched.
What do you have in mind other then 'Abolish ICE'?
I’m surprised she has support for veterans on there.
Im not.
Her group are anti war, but very pro treating veteran mental problems more seriously/consistently then they have been.
100% jobs. A Keynesian idea that has failed time and time again, because it's unbelievably expensive, and bloats the birocratic system to no end.
Well its politics, they can call it a 'universal job guarentee'
Universal jobs guarantee, is how she has it on there
but it wont play out like that.
The describing text just says 'living minimum wage'
It'll play out like pre Thatcher London