Message from @Zuihou
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Pretty much what it was getting to
Just make a point of clarifying?
But better than spending an hour defining truth for the 5th time
Pull a Peterson. "But what do you mean when you say X?"
You sorta have to do that in real discussions.
I've had arguments with friends that lasted hours that came down to which part of a distribution we were thinking about.
Iron out the difference and we would be in complete agreement.
The challenge is knowing when you need to stop and clarify definitions.
you really do
which is why i generally end up asking like 20 questions of different far fetched scenarios to figure out peoples positions
That people don't do this more often in formal debate is one of those signs that people aren't really discussing as much as fighting.
Oh I do that anyway. Working with the abstract is fun
which can be hard when they treat those questions as attempted gotcha moments and go "but thats just too far fetched and breaks x y and z"
Abstract is the only real good way to go for some things.
Since the pragmatics can easily break on tribal boundaries.
its just like "ugh... just answer the question, its not supposed to be a gotcha damnit"
lol that feel when ppl are like "OH U JUS MAKIN SHIT UP TO MAKE U SOUND RIGHT" LIKE NO JUST PROPERLY ARTICULATE YOUR POSITIONS AND WE WOULDNT BE IN THIS MESS JANNET
I think examination of the situation is valid though
Sometimes the parameters of a question make assumptions they shouldnt
poor Janet, always causing problems
But that's the reality of most debate in this world. No one's actually looking to discuss. They're looking to win.
McCain is an old man
and has old man problems
Apparenty, Uganda has a social media tax.
https://torrentfreak.com/uganda-to-block-vpns-after-people-begin-avoiding-new-social-media-tax-180702/
lol i mean he had a brain tumor not long ago lol not to mention haveing been a POW
i blame ugandan knuckles
Who cares, he's almost certainly going to retire soon and isn't that much of a factor in anything anymore.
Because people act like McCain is a true hero
I mean, in some ways he is.
But he went senile since the 2012 election
i love McCain cakes XD
@pratel i mean they are saying how he is a hero now since he is standing against trump
Lol. You can avoid the tax with a VPN
Which i feel like is a cough out
Not a very effective tax by the sound of it.
Let's just hope that they don't give other governments any ideas.
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Aside, I felt like the Ugandian Knuckles was a real missed opportunity. Had it lasted a bit longer it could have kickstarted the Ugandian film industry into being something more.
Trudeau is correct. If you torture your enemies they start to wish they'd win.