Message from @Scarlet

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2018-07-17 01:46:14 UTC  

Personally, I think most US elections are too easy to vote in already. And there are districts where the number of registered votes exceeds the number of residents already.

2018-07-17 01:46:30 UTC  

One proposal I've seen is to mandate that electronic voting machines require physical tickets as a record.

2018-07-17 01:46:36 UTC  

Which seems like a good idea to me.

2018-07-17 01:47:17 UTC  

And when the potential to manipulate elections presents itself, people will manipulate them. Heck, 4Chan manipulates online polls just because it can.

2018-07-17 01:47:27 UTC  

The benefits are quite good for voting online. But yes, worries of compromise are pretty major.

2018-07-17 01:48:03 UTC  

Also, also you really shouldnt conflate 'online polls'

2018-07-17 01:48:12 UTC  

with the security likely involved in a election.

2018-07-17 01:48:42 UTC  

You'd probably have to sign in with a government account, or social security number

2018-07-17 01:48:55 UTC  

It wouldnt be 'easy' to compromise

2018-07-17 01:49:18 UTC  

But its more plausible for mass fraud to happen that way then when voting with ballots

2018-07-17 01:50:59 UTC  

Think about how many dead people will be voting

2018-07-17 01:51:03 UTC  

SSN would be very easy to compromise, IMO. In the US we don't have government IDs beyond that either.

I've seen government security. I wouldn't trust it to get a ballot to everyone who needs it and still be robust enough to not be compromised by some intelligence service somewhere.

2018-07-17 01:51:07 UTC  

If voting was done online

2018-07-17 01:51:10 UTC  

Offense > defense.

2018-07-17 01:51:28 UTC  

"Oh no the dead people"
Sure it might happen more, but its quite rare as is.

2018-07-17 01:51:34 UTC  

Also

2018-07-17 01:51:43 UTC  

It's rare because we don't vote online ya fag

2018-07-17 01:51:48 UTC  

The most secure way i can think of, having novice knowledge of these sorts of things

2018-07-17 01:51:58 UTC  

Is to hand out physical items (Some kind of card) every year

2018-07-17 01:52:03 UTC  

To every citizen

2018-07-17 01:52:21 UTC  

With a very long string of numbers on it or something

2018-07-17 01:52:21 UTC  

It's not as rare as you think.

2018-07-17 01:52:27 UTC  

That they have to input when voting

2018-07-17 01:52:39 UTC  

Not gonna work

2018-07-17 01:52:42 UTC  

Why not?

2018-07-17 01:52:48 UTC  

It's cards

2018-07-17 01:52:51 UTC  

So?

2018-07-17 01:52:57 UTC  

You'd have to do something better.

2018-07-17 01:52:59 UTC  

Common sense

2018-07-17 01:53:06 UTC  

No one would actually care

2018-07-17 01:53:10 UTC  

If it's cards you could easily start by intercepting the cards or reverse engineering the numbers.

2018-07-17 01:53:22 UTC  

And you can fuck with the numbers

2018-07-17 01:53:29 UTC  

No, you cannot.

2018-07-17 01:53:37 UTC  

You might make an argument if you had RSA tokens or something.

2018-07-17 01:53:38 UTC  

I dont think you understand this method

2018-07-17 01:53:43 UTC  

Say you have 300k citizens

2018-07-17 01:54:08 UTC  

But I've seen enough stuff get compromised I wouldn't trust 300 mil RSA tokens to be a workable defense against a determined opponent.

2018-07-17 01:54:09 UTC  

But you set out a number with however many digits, that results in 10 trillion possibile combinations

2018-07-17 01:54:25 UTC  

You have the 'real' answers recorded on whatever is tracking the vote.

2018-07-17 01:54:36 UTC  

And the cards sent out

2018-07-17 01:54:44 UTC  

And you match the numbers to the records. Yeah, but how are you making the numbers.