Message from @Senny

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2018-07-18 06:04:51 UTC  

Or even stuff that you yourself have found

2018-07-18 06:04:55 UTC  

Like video evidence

2018-07-18 06:05:02 UTC  

The Gamer Gate people here tend to have lots of complaints about Wikipedia. Evidently they got hit hard.

2018-07-18 06:05:24 UTC  

yea

2018-07-18 06:06:16 UTC  

literally anything that's false but can be supported by 'reliable' media will get on wikipedia no problem

2018-07-18 06:06:45 UTC  

@Deleted User

I can sorta see it, but I'm not sure I see how it is that different in principle from wikipedia if it's just general news.

It's also going to get brigaded hard.

2018-07-18 06:07:09 UTC  

If it was limited to something specific like misleading media narratives and had controls or something to keep from bleeding, I could see it.

2018-07-18 06:08:16 UTC  

not finding any issues here

2018-07-18 06:09:36 UTC  

Something like that for a fact checking site might work

2018-07-18 06:09:40 UTC  

But not for articles i feel

2018-07-18 06:11:03 UTC  

It's usually subtle. Missing Scandals on some politicians. Who gets linked to whom. Inclusion of speculation without denoting it as speculation.

2018-07-18 06:12:16 UTC  

Then there's sometimes really blatant examples.

2018-07-18 06:12:55 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463054787336732683/469023745860960277/Screenshot_20180718-114246.png

2018-07-18 06:13:05 UTC  

https://archive.fo/YzkIS

versus

https://archive.fo/JJBgx

Around 2015 or so when people like Haidt and Peterson started pointing to certain marxist academics as the intellectual source of the recent social justice madness.

2018-07-18 06:13:40 UTC  

ah I see.. Shivangi is for half genocide

2018-07-18 06:14:01 UTC  

Yes

2018-07-18 06:14:35 UTC  

Lol centrist is either you have both left and right wing opinions or you don't know shit about politics

2018-07-18 06:15:06 UTC  

Though I don't like some of the questions

2018-07-18 06:15:56 UTC  

wow..they aren't even subtle about it @pratel

2018-07-18 06:16:11 UTC  

@ExceptionalFeather

See comment 5 above.

To elaborate a bit. The cultural Marxism as an intellectual source derives from some very specific names: Foucalt being a key figure (who is widely cited in the humanities). Separating speech that "liberates" from speech that "oppresses"

2018-07-18 06:16:18 UTC  

Why can't I find the page on wikipedia

2018-07-18 06:16:24 UTC  

Is it removed?

2018-07-18 06:18:29 UTC  

The basic structure follows the latter version.

2018-07-18 06:19:11 UTC  

Let me put it this way, how much of wikipedia would you say is reliable?

2018-07-18 06:19:31 UTC  

Most of the STEM stuff is pretty good

2018-07-18 06:19:48 UTC  

Historical events are pretty well documented

2018-07-18 06:19:57 UTC  

The politics section is a mess

2018-07-18 06:20:08 UTC  

The entertainment section is pretty good

2018-07-18 06:20:23 UTC  

Actually make that 85%

2018-07-18 06:20:45 UTC  

@ExceptionalFeather everything that is easily verified. Or where people wouldn't have clear agendas Like most of physics (the controversial stuff is mostly so high-level wikipedia isn't appropriate to start with)

Anything in Math is another good example.

Most of Geography up until you enter stuff like politics.

2018-07-18 06:21:04 UTC  

It's when you move into stuff like politics or some businesses that things get more sketchy.

2018-07-18 06:21:09 UTC  

On politics would an encyclopedia be better?

2018-07-18 06:21:16 UTC  

Yeah tbh

2018-07-18 06:21:19 UTC  

Unfortunately, I don't have a good answer.

2018-07-18 06:21:36 UTC  

Wiki killed most of the good encyclopedias I know of.

2018-07-18 06:21:54 UTC  

Or made them subscription.

2018-07-18 06:21:58 UTC  

Oooh imagine this

2018-07-18 06:22:11 UTC  

An encyclopedia website about political figures and ideologies