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2018-07-21 15:44:19 UTC  

WE ARE THE SAME

2018-07-21 15:44:20 UTC  

@Deleted User Yeah i agree with you.

2018-07-21 15:44:26 UTC  

They're the same thing.

2018-07-21 15:44:42 UTC  

Technically anarcy is the end goal of communism .

2018-07-21 15:45:04 UTC  

Yes.

2018-07-21 15:45:15 UTC  

In essence, Countries like soviet Russia is Stalinism

2018-07-21 15:45:17 UTC  

The idea is pure and simple, but human are anything but.

2018-07-21 15:45:24 UTC  

Communism + State

2018-07-21 15:45:43 UTC  

Socialism + state.

2018-07-21 15:45:49 UTC  

Anarchy, in it's roots, is no force upon anyone esle.

2018-07-21 15:46:00 UTC  

@Dennafen Socialism has state though

2018-07-21 15:46:02 UTC  

Will never work.

2018-07-21 15:46:09 UTC  

An important difference between anarchist communism and Marxist communism is who the product of the worker's labor belongs to as both of the ideologies believe that the product of labor does not belong to the capitalist due to it being produced by the worker and not the employer. However, there are slight differences between the opinions taken by Peter Kropotkin and Karl Marx, with Marx stating that product of the worker's labor belongs to the worker due to it being produced by the worker. In his book The Conquest of Bread, Kropotkin believes that the product of the worker's labor belongs to the community and argues that this should be the case due to the worker needing more than just what he produces and what the worker needs should be equally counted as a means of production.

2018-07-21 15:46:18 UTC  

tl; dr

2018-07-21 15:46:21 UTC  

Socialism is where the state owns the means of production

2018-07-21 15:46:22 UTC  

@Deleted User Sorry Socialism + Dictator

2018-07-21 15:46:27 UTC  

Yea

2018-07-21 15:46:32 UTC  

Sorry

2018-07-21 15:46:42 UTC  

tl dr

anarcho Communism, everyone owns the means of production

normal communism, the workers own the means of production

2018-07-21 15:47:02 UTC  

Woz

2018-07-21 15:47:06 UTC  

In communism

2018-07-21 15:47:15 UTC  

You are a worker or a corpse

2018-07-21 15:47:17 UTC  

Hey shiv

2018-07-21 15:47:22 UTC  

did you rad Leviathan (Hobbes book)?

2018-07-21 15:47:29 UTC  

No, I haven't

2018-07-21 15:47:35 UTC  

I'll check it out!

2018-07-21 15:47:52 UTC  

It is an explaination of why we need a government

2018-07-21 15:47:54 UTC  

but

2018-07-21 15:47:58 UTC  

here is a big butt

2018-07-21 15:48:05 UTC  

he defends monarchy

2018-07-21 15:48:27 UTC  

Yeah, it's it's alright

2018-07-21 15:48:31 UTC  

No @Dr.Wol the people own the means of production.

2018-07-21 15:48:36 UTC  

No the workers.

2018-07-21 15:48:40 UTC  

There is a good quote

2018-07-21 15:48:50 UTC  

Ive always wanted a proper justification for monarchism

2018-07-21 15:48:55 UTC  

and in both it is the community that should benefit.

2018-07-21 15:49:00 UTC  

"The biggest enemy of democracy is a kind monarch"

2018-07-21 15:49:11 UTC  

"From each according to their ability to each according to their need"

2018-07-21 15:49:13 UTC  

And all

2018-07-21 15:49:30 UTC  

In communism you are a worker, or a parasite on society

2018-07-21 15:49:44 UTC  

And no one likes parasites