Message from @pratel

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2018-07-21 21:17:27 UTC  

and the right-wing can stop when its over

2018-07-21 21:17:32 UTC  

the lefties can only cry moar

2018-07-21 21:18:35 UTC  

I read a nice bog post once. Argued the fastest way for the right to shut down all the campus shout downs would be for every right-leaning group to gang up and get a list of left-leaning speakers on campus and then just disrupt it with chants of "This is what you do to us!" whenever given the chance.

2018-07-21 21:19:02 UTC  

yeah

2018-07-21 21:19:05 UTC  

or even better

2018-07-21 21:19:12 UTC  

like i said many times, and tim pool too recently said it too

2018-07-21 21:19:27 UTC  

just accuse someone of being a right-wing infiltrator in the mob

2018-07-21 21:19:36 UTC  

and the mob will throw them out, cuz they dont know, they just follow

2018-07-21 21:19:55 UTC  

Indeed.

2018-07-21 21:22:56 UTC  

i mean, their own tactics work against them

2018-07-21 21:23:12 UTC  

because their tactics are everything they hate,

They just use them cuz its okay for them when they use it to beat nazis

2018-07-21 21:23:35 UTC  

HEIL TIMTLER

2018-07-21 21:24:04 UTC  

mobbing will make them all panicky and crying for safe-space
purity-test will make them eat their own
false accusations will work if you just pretend to be one of them

2018-07-21 21:24:46 UTC  

It gets worse. I suspect most of them can't empathize or understand their enemies. But their enemies understand them.

2018-07-21 21:24:55 UTC  

That's a natural situation for infiltration.

2018-07-21 21:24:56 UTC  

they can, they choose not to

2018-07-21 21:25:06 UTC  

they fear the purity test

2018-07-21 21:25:10 UTC  

I dunno how capable they are.

2018-07-21 21:25:11 UTC  

cuz once you fail, you're out

2018-07-21 21:25:19 UTC  

some are indeed stupid

2018-07-21 21:25:35 UTC  

There's a saying: "The Right sees the Left as Wrong; the Left sees the Right as Evil"

2018-07-21 21:25:46 UTC  

The tribe has spoken, you must go now.

2018-07-21 21:25:54 UTC  

It's morally repugnant for a lot of them to identify with their opponents.

2018-07-21 21:26:01 UTC  

Some can. But not all.

2018-07-21 21:26:22 UTC  

More importantly, it makes it plausible to create a shibboleth.

2018-07-21 21:27:16 UTC  

Which grants operational information asymmetry.

2018-07-21 21:27:26 UTC  

At least in theory. I might be missing something.

2018-07-21 21:29:20 UTC  

identify with your opponents makes you impure

2018-07-21 21:29:24 UTC  

and will guarantee fail you the purity test

2018-07-21 21:29:33 UTC  

Right.

2018-07-21 21:29:39 UTC  

and they fear it

2018-07-21 21:29:44 UTC  

cuz that test has no re-trys

2018-07-21 21:29:50 UTC  

But here's the idea. Suppose you find a person and want to know where they stand.

2018-07-21 21:29:55 UTC  

if you are deemed impure, you're out

and doubt is all you need to become impure

2018-07-21 21:30:07 UTC  

You start with something small and subtle and work on down and see where you get pushback.

2018-07-21 21:30:50 UTC  

And then eventually you ask if the person you're talking to can summarize without prejudice the opinions of X. Where X is some fairly mainstream right-of-center character.

2018-07-21 21:31:00 UTC  

If they start characterizing them as moral evil...

2018-07-21 21:31:19 UTC  

Wouldn't it undermine both sides if they're all using the same tactics though

2018-07-21 21:31:24 UTC  

You know they aren't completely in the mob, but they aren't an ally

2018-07-21 21:31:33 UTC  

Yes.

2018-07-21 21:31:39 UTC  

And No.