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Like in Hot Fuzz.
@GingaBomberto determine the degree
1st degree murder is premeditated murder
@GingaBomber It distinguishes between killing someone because you lost control of your car (accidental manslaughter) and intentionally chasing them down and killing them.
The latter is considered worse.
2nd degree is stuff like driving through people
If there were no hate crime laws all you'd need to do after killing someone is say "because I hate his race" and they'd have to let you go free, right
Or shooting someone by mistake
lol
It depends upon the state shiv
@Schedrevka no, hate crime laws are almost always just an amplifier on the punishment.
That's the joke
So if I kill a black guy
If I say nigger while doing it
Oh, sorry, I guess I got whoosed.
That means that'd be worse
Generally it goes Manslaughter aka accident, 2nd degree - heat of the moment, and 1st degree - premediatated
@Deleted User yes. Exactly how it works.
But if you kill someone of another race and say "I love you people btw" I think then they do actually have to let you go free
Than just killing him
A hate crime+regular crime = double crime, but a love crime+regular crime = no crime
It's to deter racial violence. Stuff like street gangs and stuff
@Schedrevka *Kills a kraut*
"I love Nazis btw"
*Goes free*
Whoa, powerful
Which makes me wonder
Are hate crime laws a step towards Thought crime?
Like think about it
If I kill a black guy while reading huckleberry finn
Is that hate crime
Who decides if it's a hate crime
Or you support trump and kill a mexicn
That'a a big problem with it for sure, unless explicitly stated there's no way for anyone but the perpetrator to know.
Who decides the intent
Unless the culprit declares it, that is
Like even the grand dragon of the KKK can kill a black dude for reasons other than his race, but he'd likely still be slapped with those extra charges were that the case
Because someone else decided it for him
Or that he can easily lie about his intent
I honestly haven't heard of too many cases of hate crime supplements that didn't seem to have some kind of clean line.
Like, clearly racist posts on Facebook or something.
Basically the prosecution has to demonstrate its a hate crime