Message from @KidKrakower

Discord ID: 473978894249099274


2018-07-31 22:20:04 UTC  

neither are good

2018-07-31 22:20:06 UTC  

To remove all other market conditions would turn it into a command control economy

2018-07-31 22:20:22 UTC  

And that too,

With UBI, companies can just up the price of products, since you can afford it now

2018-07-31 22:20:32 UTC  

i mean the data is not readily advailible

2018-07-31 22:20:36 UTC  

unless u have some sources

2018-07-31 22:20:42 UTC  

@JULZIFICATOR Is he wrong? I honestly don't know. He gave some examples in his video of wealthy pro-UBI advocates but I can't remember who they were. Charles Murray, the US conservative was one.

2018-07-31 22:20:47 UTC  

Anyone here have a background in economics? I'm a software eng so all my knowledge is self-taught

2018-07-31 22:21:02 UTC  

its not available cuz the data is against UBI, hence they wont share the data, if it works, they'd gladly share it to go "SEE, we need it and it works!"

2018-07-31 22:21:17 UTC  

@KidKrakower edcucate yourself bigot

2018-07-31 22:21:31 UTC  

i got that reference

2018-07-31 22:21:32 UTC  

LOL well elon musk and the ZUCK both advocate for it

2018-07-31 22:21:44 UTC  

but the zucks known as a bona fied leftist

2018-07-31 22:21:52 UTC  

Clearly we only need to know feminist basket weaving to understand a complex global economics

2018-07-31 22:22:11 UTC  

Zucc is not leftist. Leftist means anti-capitalist.

2018-07-31 22:22:17 UTC  

Or a BA from BU like ocasio cortez

2018-07-31 22:22:24 UTC  

Well, it's a nebulous term, I suppose.

2018-07-31 22:22:34 UTC  

Zucc is pretending to be left for the positive reputation it gives him

2018-07-31 22:22:40 UTC  

it is known

2018-07-31 22:22:48 UTC  

Leftist isn't anti-market. The far authoritarian left is anti-market

2018-07-31 22:22:48 UTC  

yeha i should say is an advocate for the leftist voice in the US

2018-07-31 22:22:54 UTC  

It is amazing he has remained so universally disliked in spite of that

2018-07-31 22:23:09 UTC  

cant cuck the zukk

2018-07-31 22:23:11 UTC  

Sure. Centre left, left liberal, or whatever.

2018-07-31 22:23:39 UTC  

thats cuz he's pissing on the rational people
And the irrational ones hate him cuz he's not like them (Poor and oppressed)

2018-07-31 22:23:45 UTC  

I don't mean to sound picky but I think the majority of people who are left of center wouldn't consider themselves anti-market

2018-07-31 22:23:59 UTC  

Just saying

2018-07-31 22:24:02 UTC  

yeah left of centre indeed

2018-07-31 22:24:05 UTC  

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

2018-07-31 22:24:14 UTC  

i wouldnt call a left of centre person a leftist

2018-07-31 22:24:20 UTC  

That's what I mean. Centre left is social democracy. "Welfare capitalism".

2018-07-31 22:24:45 UTC  

leftists basically means far left.

2018-07-31 22:24:45 UTC  

I reject that centrism is social democracy

2018-07-31 22:24:57 UTC  

i mean

2018-07-31 22:25:02 UTC  

Just means higher tax rate and public spending but still within a capitalist economic system.

2018-07-31 22:25:14 UTC  

while some centre left ppl may be for social democracies

2018-07-31 22:25:23 UTC  

id say its less than half

2018-07-31 22:26:00 UTC  

Centrism is a wide umbrella. I'd say its everything from social democracy to moderate conservatism. Again, these labels are all pretty subjective though.

2018-07-31 22:26:08 UTC  

social democracy is just monetary socialism

Instead of seizing the means of production and redistributing it
you seize the wealth and redistribute it

2018-07-31 22:26:08 UTC  

just because anyone in teh centre is defined by being a mixed bag

2018-07-31 22:26:58 UTC  

Kill all white men but it's for equality

2018-07-31 22:27:11 UTC  

XD "mainstream news is the new jerry springer" fucking on point tim