neither are good

To remove all other market conditions would turn it into a command control economy

And that too,

With UBI, companies can just up the price of products, since you can afford it now

i mean the data is not readily advailible

unless u have some sources

@JULZIFICATOR Is he wrong? I honestly don't know. He gave some examples in his video of wealthy pro-UBI advocates but I can't remember who they were. Charles Murray, the US conservative was one.

Anyone here have a background in economics? I'm a software eng so all my knowledge is self-taught

its not available cuz the data is against UBI, hence they wont share the data, if it works, they'd gladly share it to go "SEE, we need it and it works!"

@KidKrakower edcucate yourself bigot

i got that reference

LOL well elon musk and the ZUCK both advocate for it

but the zucks known as a bona fied leftist

Clearly we only need to know feminist basket weaving to understand a complex global economics

Zucc is not leftist. Leftist means anti-capitalist.

Or a BA from BU like ocasio cortez

Well, it's a nebulous term, I suppose.

Zucc is pretending to be left for the positive reputation it gives him

it is known

Leftist isn't anti-market. The far authoritarian left is anti-market

yeha i should say is an advocate for the leftist voice in the US

It is amazing he has remained so universally disliked in spite of that

cant cuck the zukk

Sure. Centre left, left liberal, or whatever.

thats cuz he's pissing on the rational people
And the irrational ones hate him cuz he's not like them (Poor and oppressed)

I don't mean to sound picky but I think the majority of people who are left of center wouldn't consider themselves anti-market

Just saying

yeah left of centre indeed

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

i wouldnt call a left of centre person a leftist

That's what I mean. Centre left is social democracy. "Welfare capitalism".

leftists basically means far left.

I reject that centrism is social democracy

i mean

Just means higher tax rate and public spending but still within a capitalist economic system.

while some centre left ppl may be for social democracies

id say its less than half

Centrism is a wide umbrella. I'd say its everything from social democracy to moderate conservatism. Again, these labels are all pretty subjective though.

social democracy is just monetary socialism

Instead of seizing the means of production and redistributing it
you seize the wealth and redistribute it

just because anyone in teh centre is defined by being a mixed bag

Kill all white men but it's for equality

XD "mainstream news is the new jerry springer" fucking on point tim