well they aren't doing it forcefully

in an ancap society there would only be private property basically, we wouldnt have any collectivist system or land to defend

@NativeInterface whatever reason. there is usually reason but sometimes is resources, other times its personal feuds, sometimes its just because they can.

how can you have private property but no land to defend?

you have at least 1 plot of land

unless you property doesn't count land

i mean you wouldnt be pushing people away from some nation border

under sharia law women is property right ?

i have the skeleton of an argument that a homestead can be nation, but that is for a different time, and not fleshed out at the moment

but you have something to defend

i.e your property

yeah, but for that you would need immigrants trespassing on your actual property, not just going across a border to seek housing and jobs

this is off topic

countries are not in the example previously

sorry what are we talking about?

you have a group of people, or perhaps just 1 person to start, who have decided to start attacking another group, for whatever reason.

they are not currently any threat to you

i image you don't do anything

i mean, why would you?

unless you are friends or something. but we are assuming just acquaintances , far on the other side of town, or the valley or something.

is the problem that the attacked group doesnt have a state military to defend them, or whats the angle?

its just two groups in an an-cap world.

a conflict has arisen to the point of armed disagreement.

its far enough removed that you don't know the origin point

no idea who the actual aggressor is

just that you see it happening

so basically a gang conflict?

or two rival families

maybe some honor thing

but more or less

you have no reason to assume it will spread

not to you anyway

it's just regular crime, you can have defense firms and private police

right, but you have no reason to get involved

do you?

well do the victims need help with defense or not?

who is the victim?

you don't know them well enough

the people getting killed

from the conflict

its an armed conflict, people are getting shot at from both sides