Message from @aleee

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2018-08-11 12:42:05 UTC  

Migrant crisis is part of the larger problem. How are illiterate migrants with no skills or capital going to be able to contribute to an economy where all the low-skilled jobs are being eliminated due to automation?

2018-08-11 12:42:22 UTC  

They probably won't

2018-08-11 12:42:29 UTC  

They're going to be competing with citizens for the dwindling number of low-skilled jobs remaining that require human touch.

2018-08-11 12:42:30 UTC  

That's not the goal of the crisis though.

2018-08-11 12:42:42 UTC  

They aren't being brought in for economic reasons.

2018-08-11 12:42:44 UTC  

It's a race-to-the-bottom in terms of wages.

2018-08-11 12:43:00 UTC  

It's for "moral" reasons.

2018-08-11 12:43:06 UTC  

Look at it from this angle:

A leader who has a stable economy, and pre-emptively defeated Islam terrorists,

"Nice, but you wasted tax money on something that MIGHT have happened... what else did you do?"

A leader who rebuilt an economy and defeated terrorists who bombed stuff

"Thank you for saving our economy and saving our lives, you're a hero"

2018-08-11 12:44:21 UTC  

also they're not brought in for moral reasons, they're brought in for votes

IF the overwhelming public was "Fuck those people" and was vocal about it,

You'd have a country that blocks its borders, thats why Hungary and Poland do it

2018-08-11 12:45:16 UTC  

While stupid sobbing female university students in Sweden may justify uncontrolled migration for "moral" reasons, Merkel and her Eurocrats are justifying it as "they'll pay for our retirement".

2018-08-11 12:45:26 UTC  

Which is nonsense, and everyone knows it's nonsense.

2018-08-11 12:45:38 UTC  

I was watching a video about how ungrateful people aren't happy and how people who are ungrateful see themselves as victims. Basically the TDS faction in a nutshell. They don't see how much good Trump has done and how many future issues are being defused preemptively.

2018-08-11 12:45:48 UTC  

oh its true...

It will be an "early retirement" though 😉

2018-08-11 12:46:49 UTC  

Left unchecked what'll happen is massive wealth concentration and a return to something akin to feudalism, with moneyed lords living head and shoulders above teeming masses living at bare subsistence.

2018-08-11 12:47:30 UTC  

aristocracy

2018-08-11 12:47:56 UTC  

Aren't the coasts of the US basically an aristocracy now?

2018-08-11 12:48:09 UTC  

Not quite that bad, but heading that way.

2018-08-11 12:48:12 UTC  

yeah

2018-08-11 12:48:28 UTC  

CA is ran by the Hollywood Elite

NY is ran by the Wall Street Elite

2018-08-11 12:48:40 UTC  

Silicon Valley vs. junkies living in tents under overpasses.

2018-08-11 12:49:00 UTC  

Tim, the Ç is pronounced like an English S in "sea" for example. Watched the Google is winning the censorship war and that bit me so hard in the butt <:bubuXD:467361348813324298>

2018-08-11 12:49:13 UTC  

To be fair, SF does basically encourage homelessness

2018-08-11 12:51:38 UTC  

SF is an extreme, yes. Caused mostly by their own mismanagement and stupidity.

2018-08-11 12:52:34 UTC  

whens this Unite the Right rally again?

2018-08-11 12:52:34 UTC  

But it's illustrative.

2018-08-11 12:54:41 UTC  

When self-driving cars are mainstream, and Google Duplex has eliminated phone support and receptionists, and kiosk ordering has been deployed at most restaurants, and drone delivery is feasible, that's when the disruption in low-skill employment will start to happen. So not too far off.

2018-08-11 12:55:06 UTC  

People pushed out of those sectors are going to be numbered in the millions, and they'll be forced to compete in other low-skilled sectors that are more difficult to automate.

2018-08-11 12:55:11 UTC  

Forcing down wages in those areas.

2018-08-11 12:55:19 UTC  

and then, self-driving cars will kill suspected Nazi's by intentionally driving them to their deaths 🤔

2018-08-11 12:56:45 UTC  

Jobs that will remain will be those for which a human touch is desired. Like healthcare, or childcare and education.

2018-08-11 12:57:36 UTC  

Wages will be driven down in those sectors, which is both a negative and a potential positive.

2018-08-11 12:58:00 UTC  

Negative in that the people doing those jobs will, all else being equal, be more miserable.

2018-08-11 12:58:23 UTC  

Potential positive in that if you reduce the price of something, you can buy more of it for the same money.

2018-08-11 12:59:17 UTC  

A society that has more nurses, home care workers, physiotherapists, primary school teachers, daycare workers, etc, is probably a pretty good society.

2018-08-11 12:59:23 UTC  

Education is gonna fade, it doesn't need a human touch

2018-08-11 12:59:38 UTC  

Assuming you can keep those people from hating their lives due to oppressive poverty.

2018-08-11 13:00:08 UTC  

@Dr.Wol college level yes. K-12 probably not.

2018-08-11 13:00:33 UTC  

you can get homeschooling for that

2018-08-11 13:00:37 UTC  

Kids in front of screens aren't going to learn shit you want them to learn.

2018-08-11 13:00:42 UTC  

That's another thing.

2018-08-11 13:01:28 UTC  

If wages are really low, you might see stay-at-home parenting become competitive (assuming one parent has a tech job).