Message from @Atkins

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2018-08-11 12:59:38 UTC  

Assuming you can keep those people from hating their lives due to oppressive poverty.

2018-08-11 13:00:08 UTC  

@Dr.Wol college level yes. K-12 probably not.

2018-08-11 13:00:33 UTC  

you can get homeschooling for that

2018-08-11 13:00:37 UTC  

Kids in front of screens aren't going to learn shit you want them to learn.

2018-08-11 13:00:42 UTC  

That's another thing.

2018-08-11 13:01:28 UTC  

If wages are really low, you might see stay-at-home parenting become competitive (assuming one parent has a tech job).

2018-08-11 13:02:14 UTC  

Like why should a software engineer making half a million bucks have their partner wiping old people's bums for a living making $20k.

2018-08-11 13:03:14 UTC  

exactly

2018-08-11 13:03:27 UTC  

so with that, comes less need for primary schooling

2018-08-11 13:03:43 UTC  

Only for those who have one parent making sufficient moeny.

2018-08-11 13:04:37 UTC  

Two people making $20k aren't going to be able to afford to have one stay at home.

2018-08-11 13:05:37 UTC  

At least in the current market paradigm. We're going to have to figure something out that augments the free market in order to bring about a societal structure that we can bear.

2018-08-11 13:06:09 UTC  

space colonisation / mining

2018-08-11 13:06:33 UTC  

Doesn't help. Who owns the capital?

2018-08-11 13:06:39 UTC  

companies

2018-08-11 13:07:02 UTC  

And the couple scraping by on $40k combined income ain't going to be holding much stock.

2018-08-11 13:07:17 UTC  

much like how the family of military people get full cover for everything, cuz those soldiers lay their lives on the line,

You will get companies that pay for hazard pay in space etc good money

2018-08-11 13:07:50 UTC  

Military people get less than you'd think, and only because governments can print money.

2018-08-11 13:08:30 UTC  

Remember: we're thinking about a world in which human labor is even cheaper than now.

2018-08-11 13:08:43 UTC  

Companies will have market power.

2018-08-11 13:08:51 UTC  

They can fuck whoever they want for whatever they want.

2018-08-11 13:09:02 UTC  

My dad got really good money and amazing benefits

2018-08-11 13:09:03 UTC  

governments can't just print money, that will destroy the currency

2018-08-11 13:09:07 UTC  

It'll be a permanent employer's market.

2018-08-11 13:09:44 UTC  

What's the US deficit again?

2018-08-11 13:09:59 UTC  

the deficit it owes itself you mean?

2018-08-11 13:10:16 UTC  

if it could print money like that, it wouldn't have a deficit

2018-08-11 13:10:40 UTC  

the whole reason there IS a deficit is cuz the government CAN'T just print money to cover costs

2018-08-11 13:11:09 UTC  

and that is WHY those military people get less, because the government can't afford it

2018-08-11 13:11:57 UTC  

but if a company can earn Trillions by strip-mining asteroids, its not gonna care about racking out a few extra million for hazard pay

2018-08-11 13:12:32 UTC  

Look into Khan's education system, that will be the future

2018-08-11 13:12:35 UTC  

I think talking about strip-mining asteroids is deflecting from the problem we're facing in the near future.

2018-08-11 13:12:50 UTC  

Sci-fi hand-waving.

2018-08-11 13:13:28 UTC  

i'll grant you the term is far fetched,

That doesn't take away the future of economy after labor jobs are automated, lies in the stars

2018-08-11 13:13:40 UTC  

If anyone is freaking out about automated Jobs the solution or at least a big part of it is quite simple

2018-08-11 13:13:41 UTC  

Or in war

2018-08-11 13:14:03 UTC  

90% of the labor people aren't fit for higher education,

They need simple jobs

2018-08-11 13:14:15 UTC  

so either give them a drill or a gun

2018-08-11 13:14:45 UTC  

Shorter work weeks

2018-08-11 13:15:49 UTC  

This whole conversation is something that should be happening as part of the national political dialogue. Instead we get "free healthcare, free university, free housing, free this, free that".

2018-08-11 13:16:04 UTC  

Thats because its more appealing