Message from @Dr.Wol

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2018-08-11 12:51:38 UTC  

SF is an extreme, yes. Caused mostly by their own mismanagement and stupidity.

2018-08-11 12:52:34 UTC  

whens this Unite the Right rally again?

2018-08-11 12:52:34 UTC  

But it's illustrative.

2018-08-11 12:54:41 UTC  

When self-driving cars are mainstream, and Google Duplex has eliminated phone support and receptionists, and kiosk ordering has been deployed at most restaurants, and drone delivery is feasible, that's when the disruption in low-skill employment will start to happen. So not too far off.

2018-08-11 12:55:06 UTC  

People pushed out of those sectors are going to be numbered in the millions, and they'll be forced to compete in other low-skilled sectors that are more difficult to automate.

2018-08-11 12:55:11 UTC  

Forcing down wages in those areas.

2018-08-11 12:55:19 UTC  

and then, self-driving cars will kill suspected Nazi's by intentionally driving them to their deaths 🤔

2018-08-11 12:56:45 UTC  

Jobs that will remain will be those for which a human touch is desired. Like healthcare, or childcare and education.

2018-08-11 12:57:36 UTC  

Wages will be driven down in those sectors, which is both a negative and a potential positive.

2018-08-11 12:58:00 UTC  

Negative in that the people doing those jobs will, all else being equal, be more miserable.

2018-08-11 12:58:23 UTC  

Potential positive in that if you reduce the price of something, you can buy more of it for the same money.

2018-08-11 12:59:17 UTC  

A society that has more nurses, home care workers, physiotherapists, primary school teachers, daycare workers, etc, is probably a pretty good society.

2018-08-11 12:59:23 UTC  

Education is gonna fade, it doesn't need a human touch

2018-08-11 12:59:38 UTC  

Assuming you can keep those people from hating their lives due to oppressive poverty.

2018-08-11 13:00:08 UTC  

@Dr.Wol college level yes. K-12 probably not.

2018-08-11 13:00:33 UTC  

you can get homeschooling for that

2018-08-11 13:00:37 UTC  

Kids in front of screens aren't going to learn shit you want them to learn.

2018-08-11 13:00:42 UTC  

That's another thing.

2018-08-11 13:01:28 UTC  

If wages are really low, you might see stay-at-home parenting become competitive (assuming one parent has a tech job).

2018-08-11 13:02:14 UTC  

Like why should a software engineer making half a million bucks have their partner wiping old people's bums for a living making $20k.

2018-08-11 13:03:14 UTC  

exactly

2018-08-11 13:03:27 UTC  

so with that, comes less need for primary schooling

2018-08-11 13:03:43 UTC  

Only for those who have one parent making sufficient moeny.

2018-08-11 13:04:37 UTC  

Two people making $20k aren't going to be able to afford to have one stay at home.

2018-08-11 13:05:37 UTC  

At least in the current market paradigm. We're going to have to figure something out that augments the free market in order to bring about a societal structure that we can bear.

2018-08-11 13:06:09 UTC  

space colonisation / mining

2018-08-11 13:06:33 UTC  

Doesn't help. Who owns the capital?

2018-08-11 13:06:39 UTC  

companies

2018-08-11 13:07:02 UTC  

And the couple scraping by on $40k combined income ain't going to be holding much stock.

2018-08-11 13:07:17 UTC  

much like how the family of military people get full cover for everything, cuz those soldiers lay their lives on the line,

You will get companies that pay for hazard pay in space etc good money

2018-08-11 13:07:50 UTC  

Military people get less than you'd think, and only because governments can print money.

2018-08-11 13:08:30 UTC  

Remember: we're thinking about a world in which human labor is even cheaper than now.

2018-08-11 13:08:43 UTC  

Companies will have market power.

2018-08-11 13:08:51 UTC  

They can fuck whoever they want for whatever they want.

2018-08-11 13:09:02 UTC  

My dad got really good money and amazing benefits

2018-08-11 13:09:03 UTC  

governments can't just print money, that will destroy the currency

2018-08-11 13:09:07 UTC  

It'll be a permanent employer's market.

2018-08-11 13:09:44 UTC  

What's the US deficit again?

2018-08-11 13:09:59 UTC  

the deficit it owes itself you mean?

2018-08-11 13:10:16 UTC  

if it could print money like that, it wouldn't have a deficit

2018-08-11 13:10:40 UTC  

the whole reason there IS a deficit is cuz the government CAN'T just print money to cover costs