Message from @The Wayward Tankman

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2018-08-12 03:47:25 UTC  

he was watering the flowers

2018-08-12 03:47:30 UTC  

First thought: Easy, catchy way to explain the difference between an authoritarian and a libertarian

2018-08-12 03:47:52 UTC  

Like they asked the people to move, and literally had an officer go to each of them one by one and made sure they understood that would happen

2018-08-12 03:47:55 UTC  

Authoritarians believe that Government should inform Culture. Libertarians believe Culture should inform Government.

2018-08-12 03:48:09 UTC  

I'll finish my thought tho
There's only one small group of people who call them liberals & that is certain right wing people who dislike the left in it's entirety to the point of trying to brand it all as the same blank slate

2018-08-12 03:48:34 UTC  

Are they right wing, though?

2018-08-12 03:48:44 UTC  

Yes

2018-08-12 03:49:41 UTC  

The left/right wing dichotomy is terribly outdated, and especially ill suited to the modern 'culture war' which is more between authoritarians, (small L) libertarians, and a small amount of authoritarians pretending to be libertarian

2018-08-12 03:49:44 UTC  

The only people I've seen calling them liberals is small amounts of a little over moderate right wingers

2018-08-12 03:49:46 UTC  

I don't think that they are. I think that on the Authoritarian/Libertarian scale, that's the value that matters more. A libertarian conservative is more likely to try to sway your opinions than impose them.

2018-08-12 03:49:54 UTC  

same with a libertarian progressive

2018-08-12 03:50:09 UTC  

They don't call themselves that

2018-08-12 03:50:22 UTC  

Of course not. the Progressive movement is a mess.

2018-08-12 03:50:28 UTC  

Think about that they don't even call themselves that

2018-08-12 03:50:30 UTC  

Also referred to as the Left.

2018-08-12 03:50:30 UTC  

Las vegas has severe thunderstorms with 70mph gusts

2018-08-12 03:50:44 UTC  

which is also used as a pejorative.

2018-08-12 03:50:48 UTC  

in our circles, anyway.

2018-08-12 03:50:51 UTC  

Yes the left is at least accurate

2018-08-12 03:51:09 UTC  

I don't think it is. Tim openly calls himself a progressive.

2018-08-12 03:51:10 UTC  

In a technical sense

2018-08-12 03:51:22 UTC  

It's one thing that leads me to this conclusion

2018-08-12 03:51:32 UTC  

These people are part of the left

2018-08-12 03:51:35 UTC  

We're not in a right winger's discord.

2018-08-12 03:52:01 UTC  

We're in a moderate one I believe

2018-08-12 03:52:05 UTC  

It is annoying though to have people who confuse the authoritarian left for being the whole left even if it is the currently culturally dominant part. Like they forget that many on the left are on their side despite them being on the right

2018-08-12 03:52:22 UTC  

Hear me out on this sched

2018-08-12 03:52:30 UTC  

It's ALMOST as annoying as confusing the entire right as the Alt-Right.

2018-08-12 03:52:49 UTC  

It is 102 F right now at 11pm in las vegas..

2018-08-12 03:53:02 UTC  

It's almost like your opposition's opinions don't really matter if they're villains.

2018-08-12 03:53:43 UTC  

I'd much rather some guy on the right say I'm a bad person because I'm slightly left leaning than have the media constantly decrying everyone who disagrees as alt right

2018-08-12 03:55:03 UTC  

Like they're both just as bad, and should be stopped, but one seems a lot more harmful to me

2018-08-12 03:55:14 UTC  

But someone who's on the right and libertarian isn't going to notice that you've got left leaning tendencies, or particularly care.

2018-08-12 03:55:28 UTC  

They might debate you, but they probably won't call you a bad person

2018-08-12 03:55:36 UTC  

ouch, sucks to live in vegas

2018-08-12 03:55:39 UTC  

Pretty .much

2018-08-12 03:55:41 UTC  

I'd say it's much less common

2018-08-12 03:55:42 UTC  

They are more interested in changing culture, not imposing their will.

2018-08-12 03:55:53 UTC  

i had to be in your airport for 4 hours once and i wanted to die

2018-08-12 03:56:14 UTC  

I dont live in las vegas

2018-08-12 03:56:23 UTC  

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