Message from @Grenade123

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2018-08-15 20:01:35 UTC  

I mean its pretty standard reasons

2018-08-15 20:02:00 UTC  

High cost of entry to become a doctor is one

2018-08-15 20:02:19 UTC  

Okay but

2018-08-15 20:02:23 UTC  

I've forgotten the standard reasons.

2018-08-15 20:03:00 UTC  

for-profit insurance, lack of competition, for-profit drug companies, for-profit education for drs, for-profit student loan companies (and btw I'm a capitalist, I just think most of the costs of obfuscated so not easy to compete)

2018-08-15 20:03:04 UTC  

Patients pay the bill ultimately for doctors going to school

2018-08-15 20:03:27 UTC  

Dirty tactics by insurance in general

2018-08-15 20:03:29 UTC  

insruance meanting health insurance and malpractice

2018-08-15 20:04:34 UTC  

hospitals charge different rates and many times you can't just "shop around" because the billing codes are "hidden" unless you know how to navigate the beauracracy

2018-08-15 20:04:44 UTC  

and that's just for starters

2018-08-15 20:05:10 UTC  

and again, I'm for competition and not for socialism, but that's not what we're talking about here

2018-08-15 20:05:16 UTC  

Ah, one more thing I can blame the colleges for.

2018-08-15 20:05:21 UTC  

I want these companies to be able to make money to provide a service

2018-08-15 20:05:24 UTC  

Seriously what the shit are we doing.

2018-08-15 20:05:37 UTC  

High dependency on doctors, one could point to insurance as part of it. Creates the thought process that if I am paying for it I might as well use it, causing high demand on a low supply of medical attention naturally raising prices

2018-08-15 20:05:56 UTC  

again, it's not just one thing

2018-08-15 20:06:00 UTC  

and it's spiraled

2018-08-15 20:06:07 UTC  

so people instinctively want to go the opposite way

2018-08-15 20:06:29 UTC  

to the extreme

2018-08-15 20:07:02 UTC  

Let me put it this way, how much should a Doctor make?

2018-08-15 20:07:04 UTC  

you know, I commend Bernie for actually sticking to his principle rather than being an Obama or hillary and try and give a non=answer

2018-08-15 20:07:29 UTC  

I'm in no way going to ever say we should limits someone's salary

2018-08-15 20:07:36 UTC  

he was pretty straight forward: People need healthcare, they most get it from their job, if you can't figure out how to offer it, you should not be offering people jobs.

2018-08-15 20:07:54 UTC  

the whole healthcare tied to job is wrong, imo

2018-08-15 20:07:59 UTC  

I was not going that route @LotheronPrime

2018-08-15 20:08:29 UTC  

very near sighted since it basically means if healthcare is too expensive for even business to offer then no one gets a job and they cannot afford anything

2018-08-15 20:08:37 UTC  

but that is socialists for you

2018-08-15 20:08:49 UTC  

only care about the feels now, damn the future

2018-08-15 20:08:59 UTC  

yeah I think it should be separated from a job

2018-08-15 20:09:13 UTC  

but at least he was up front about a hard fact of his doctrine

2018-08-15 20:09:43 UTC  

yup

2018-08-15 20:09:49 UTC  

I think his numbers are off

2018-08-15 20:10:43 UTC  

I don't think it's one of those things that can accurately be calculated anyway

2018-08-15 20:11:50 UTC  

I want to point out what I was saying earlier, most people might believe that a doctor ought to be paid something like 90k a year, but why?

2018-08-15 20:12:08 UTC  

I think the market should decide that

2018-08-15 20:12:20 UTC  

like 10 years of college

2018-08-15 20:12:28 UTC  

if they don't make 90k a year they will be in debt forever

2018-08-15 20:12:29 UTC  

lmao

2018-08-15 20:12:30 UTC  

given enough Drs it would be 90K right? oversimplification, but I'm sure it would

2018-08-15 20:12:30 UTC  

Given the current market though

2018-08-15 20:12:36 UTC  

exactly grenade