I always thought those were called "simulators" or "trainers"

yeah

well

This "serious games" movement appears to be more about being "artistic" in the style of Brecht or something.

Serious games are meant to be realistic

Utilizing gaming to advance political causes.

Surgeon simulator is not a good representative of real life surgery 😄

No but faux sims aren't sims

lol

I don't think it pretends to be.

They're just memegames

well exactly

A better simulator would be DiRT 3

so Surgeon Simulator would not be qualified as a "Serious Game"

Even though it doesn't have "simulator" in it's name.

or Goat simulator 😛

Dirt is still simcade isn't it?

Bascially. They've actually published papers on simulating dirty-tire interactions to try and properly emulate the physics.

But the game is also designed to still be played casually.

I was thinking stuff like full on sim racers, or DCS

"Serious Games" is probably closer to Papers Please. But without considering "both sides"

And the people who bought spintires for mud physics

Microsoft Flight Simulator?

yes like Flight Simulator

ive seen people play that, i would not call that serious at all

@NativeInterface It's pretty serious. I've played it and gotten bored on the actual flight.

well the idea behind serious games is that they're about learning / training, and not as much about adding a fun-twist to it

see airforceproud95

Once you get steady level and just sit for several hours...

There's a place around here that advertises actual flying lessons and I'm kinda tempted

@Dr.Wol not the "serious games" as described in the Guardian article.

@Beemann how much?

Haven't checked yet

serious is just a description of how uptight the users are

Looks like its about 2-300 depending on the craft

i played this game

i used to allah akbar at the arcade

looks ultra serious