Message from @pratel

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2018-08-22 02:15:13 UTC  

were always heading for a collapse unless one is ongoing

2018-08-22 02:15:26 UTC  

nobody even thinks about solutions

2018-08-22 02:15:34 UTC  

neither short nor long term

2018-08-22 02:15:38 UTC  

No one agrees on the problems.

2018-08-22 02:15:43 UTC  

they just virtue signal

2018-08-22 02:15:55 UTC  

The real reason for the decline, I think is far simpler than anyone wants to admit.

2018-08-22 02:15:56 UTC  

I don't mean like "you're going to die eventually" I mean like "mate you have cancer"

2018-08-22 02:16:03 UTC  

The west is currently a trade empire.

2018-08-22 02:16:07 UTC  

Democracies are inherently unstable

2018-08-22 02:16:13 UTC  

Trade empires collapse when everyone else catches up.

2018-08-22 02:16:24 UTC  

And the trade advantage disappears.

2018-08-22 02:16:35 UTC  

So what next?

2018-08-22 02:16:40 UTC  

where do we go

2018-08-22 02:16:41 UTC  

Happened to Britain to an extent around the 1920s.

2018-08-22 02:17:02 UTC  

i think we need another technological revolution

2018-08-22 02:17:02 UTC  

Welll...The Dems during Obama were cheering for a multipolar world.

2018-08-22 02:17:09 UTC  

We enter the multipolar world.

2018-08-22 02:17:19 UTC  

Wait what

2018-08-22 02:17:22 UTC  

It's not as idyllic as people think.

2018-08-22 02:17:26 UTC  

we just enter a less stable version of the world?

2018-08-22 02:17:40 UTC  

That's not how it was sold in the 'naughts.

2018-08-22 02:17:42 UTC  

But basically.

2018-08-22 02:17:53 UTC  

I think the way to go is smaller more fragmented organizations kept together by larger deals. Sort of like how the US was supposed to go originally

2018-08-22 02:18:02 UTC  

Rule on as local a level as you can

2018-08-22 02:18:19 UTC  

With higher tiers existing to solve less manageable problems

2018-08-22 02:18:25 UTC  

I think that's part of the solution. But I also think at some level you have to be able to unify into something greater.

It's a delicate act.

2018-08-22 02:18:33 UTC  

Most social problems want local solutions.

2018-08-22 02:18:48 UTC  

But economic and military ones tend towards global ones.

2018-08-22 02:18:54 UTC  

I don't think you can get people on opposite sides of the continent to unite indefinitely

2018-08-22 02:19:01 UTC  

what are somer fucked up things democrats supporter throughout history

2018-08-22 02:19:01 UTC  

I think you can.

2018-08-22 02:19:06 UTC  

slavery, KKK

2018-08-22 02:19:07 UTC  

what else

2018-08-22 02:19:18 UTC  

There was that widespread lie about johnson

2018-08-22 02:19:30 UTC  

"well have those niggers voting democrat for the next two hundred years"

2018-08-22 02:19:33 UTC  

jim crow?

2018-08-22 02:19:50 UTC  

The history of the South until the 70s.

2018-08-22 02:20:00 UTC  

That's the ones people tend to.

2018-08-22 02:20:02 UTC  

but his great society program was a step back for most african american communities

2018-08-22 02:20:08 UTC  

they have anything to do with the mccarthy era?

2018-08-22 02:20:12 UTC  

Bill Clinton was roiled by scandals his entire presidency.