Message from @pratel
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Which was widely criticized at the time.
Months of consistent polls.
And are you just taking people's word on it?
Lots of independent models.
OK. What makes you think it's all wrong.
Have you, as a person, ever been polled for something like that?
I've never been polled.
No. But I've done poll work so I know how easily you can manipulate things if that's where you're going.
How many people have you met in your life that have been polled?
But polling in the US is reasonably good.
How are we so certain these pollsters don't just hang around shopping malls?
Well for one, I get the phone calls.
But I rarely answer those calls.
The bias in phone responses tends to over-emphasize the elderly.
For that reason.
Not an argument.
I'd like to print this and frame it.
Right
The argument is: 2016
But simply because it happened in 2016 does not imply it happens in 2018.
Your faith is amusing.
So saying "Trump won 2016 and therefore Republicans win 2018" is a little fallacious.
You think everyone with a job is doing it well.
No. I think there's a number of people who are.
To the best of their ability
im with scribble on this one, the polls are unreliable
Pollsters tend to try and be objective.
PRFF
Watch the Penn and Teller episode on NUMBERS
Both parties rely on it for strategy and contract it all out. And you don't deceive yourself if you're talking strategy.
I believe it's the numbers episode anyway
people fear for SJW backlash
y'all being rude
Where the pollsters do whatever they have to do, to get the answers they're AFTER.
so they lie or dont tell
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And they do it all the fucking time.
I'm not going to argue there. But political pollsters do tend to try and stay sorta objective.
The News polls are not the most reliable.