You don't use Santa in a bad way, do you?

denial of the religious reflex in humans is stupid

Idk.. I don't need religion to help my neighbour in need or to have the moral principle of not hurting people around me.

I think that ideologies popping up in societies is pretty much inevitable and that a harmless religion is a good protection from a more harmful ideology, religion or not from popping up

We also have a reflex for wanting to steal shiny objects. No one denies it.

our mind is filled with all kind of things that are not true but evolutionary advantagiosu

Exactly and that is why we must not abolish Religion, we must find a better religion and replace the old ones with the new version!

its hard to replace a religion that had 2000 years + of finetuning

@Senny how involved are you in your community at large? How attached do you feel to the people who live near you? Do you know how they're doing?

Church is an easy way of accomplishing all of that

How is it that social media is getting off scot free right now.

arguably if it was that bad, it would have disappeared like all those other religions of 2k years ago

It's not impossible to do otherwise

@Beemann not at all but I wasn't even when I was young and groomed into religion, it's personality thing, not religious

But it's not terribly common to see it happen eithee

The problem with any religion is that SOME PERCENTAGE of it wants you to take it literally.

It's not though. If you're a churchgoer you will already be interacting with those around you

And then all the people that weren't taking it literally don't say "No" to that person

They sheepishly just.. accept it.

"Yeah well... Eh..."

Like how you just naturally made friends in school

I'm not saying it can't help, but I'm saying it's not necessary for having those values.

@Scribblehatch your autism is on fire

... Fuck off, we're not taking this shit literally. Not the Ark, not the Garden, none of it.

@Deleted User Make points.

No, it's not necessary, but it's a social system we haven't reliably replaced

I don't think we disagree with you on that point Senny, at least for most people it's not

@Scribblehatch Are we talking about Islam again? ;)
But then again, I don't want to imagine what would have happened if a certain person, that wasn't German, would have done things different if he really knew about Islam.

Prager says that without religion, there's no reason you wouldn't be evil.

So no, not just Islam.

Or its possible that he did and adopted the parts he knew in his Ideology.

i was trying to make a corny joke relating your unhinged typing chat carisma with your sex is on fire by kings of leon, ''your autism is on fire''

get it?

there is plenty of reasons not to be evil

not all of those come from organised religion tho

The golden rule never gets any credit for preceding religion in all cultures.

emphasis on organised

True but sometimes Organized Religion fuckes that up.

The golden rule is simplicity itself.

golden rule?

Technically there isn't an especially good reason not to be "evil" ever