there is a fundamental assumption there

Knowledge is a benefit

you act, because you believe it is beneficial for you

you dont know that for sure

can you imagine how many monkeys set themselves on fire before some other monkey mastered the flame

but you believe you gotta try

You act in accordance with what you feel your best interests are. Nihilism says "that's the end of the conversation"

i want to see video of that tbh

Its that simple

That's *literally all there is to it*

your previous definition claimed that truths are all equal in value

and i just tried to explain that aint true

Yes, as in *philosophical truths*

A distinction I've made about 5 times now

Sorry, if I posted pictures of monkeys on fire, I think the discord will be flagged

i dont think i could buy into that either

there are hirarchies of truth even in the realm of philosohpy

Not in nihilism

then its wrong

some philosphies are garbage, but you have to ask the questions to have the rights and wrongs rationalized

or you believe philosophy doesnt have an effect on humans one way or the other i guess

That's not it either, just that there's no objective ethical standard

He's not even saying nihilism is a good world view dude. All he's doing is trying to explain what it actually is about

I do think a lot of people give nihilists the treatment atheists get from religious folk. "What's stopping you from being HitlerSatan tho lol"

I'm working on it man, cut me a break

well what do you expect, you trew out the hirarchy of ethical philosophical principals when you stated they all equally worthless

That doesn't turn you into a dictator though

In fact, dictators have strong value systems

That's why they're dictators

even tho no nihilists actually live their lives like all phylosophical principals are equal

"A business donated to a pro business party! this is a betrayal!"

How couldn't they?

but if you take em on their words, then ye

Moral relativism isn't that uncommon

ofc it issnt, different situations require different morals

So you don't believe in an objective ethics system?

but just cause the hirarchy is flexible and changable, doesnt meant there issnt a hirarchy

See I'm actually on the other side of this

I do think there are moral absolutes

also i dont think anyone can believe in an objective ethics system

there is a faith assumption at the bottom every time