Social Justis is not possible!

not absolutely

I would disagree

Because people are different.

Re: cytos, not re SJ

Really, the issue is far larger. No amount of "human rights" is really going to resolve the core issue in China.

The two groups are *really* distinct.

Remember the 80's, when so many conservatives and neoliberals claim that implementing capitalism will allow people to transition to democracy and human rights? Boy were they wrong.

and yeah pratel

you cant imagine a situation where someones free speech causes an injustice?

That's why I am supportive of the two groups having their own nations

which would make it non absolute

nO

I can't imagine free speech producing a worse society

ye but you talking averages again

@Ace K OK, but that's really distinct from needing Social Justice running around.

absolute means something else i think

I can imagine someone using their speech to cause injustice, but that's not the free speech itself causing it

@>Cytos, de lieve goede synth LOok at the Media how they portrayed the Chemnits Demonstrations.

"The democrats have gone nuts"
"Donald Trump was an improvement"
"...they're socialists, they're communists, they really do hate America" - Tim Pool, far right commentator

True Pratel, like I said earlier, I mispoke and messed up on what I was saying, so I apologize.

Me right now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFkAAvDkj9k

so i still stand by my possition, there is no moral code that is absolutely true

@Ace K how were they wrong? capitalism helped the average quality of life and although there are still tyrannical institutions generally this increase the outlook towards liberty/democracy people eventually look towards even if they live in a tyrannical society

in every situation, at all times

just codes that are on avergage more true then others

How very nihilistic of you

@Ace K Adding to what Ottobon is saying, there's a distinct subculture in China right now among the young that's very different.

It should be allowed to criticize the State and Religions but at the same time it should not be allowed to outright lie about a person.

the opposite actually schedrevka

i believe in philosophical hyrarchies

nihilists do not

I'm just messing around

i just believe they are flexible as frik

o i kno, no hard feels to any in this chat

They went above and beyond that though in their predictions @Ottobon , they claimed that capitalism would end authoritarian and totalitarian regimes.

unless you wana call me RUDE

THEN IMA CUT A BIRCH

The Nazi Riot in Chemnitz is the best example. Because there were no Nazis and I didn't see a riot. It was a protest by normal persons.

well if one was expecting instant results that would be foolish ace

Where hasn't it?