Message from @Ace K
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so i still stand by my possition, there is no moral code that is absolutely true
@Ace K how were they wrong? capitalism helped the average quality of life and although there are still tyrannical institutions generally this increase the outlook towards liberty/democracy people eventually look towards even if they live in a tyrannical society
in every situation, at all times
just codes that are on avergage more true then others
How very nihilistic of you
@Ace K Adding to what Ottobon is saying, there's a distinct subculture in China right now among the young that's very different.
It should be allowed to criticize the State and Religions but at the same time it should not be allowed to outright lie about a person.
the opposite actually schedrevka
i believe in philosophical hyrarchies
nihilists do not
I'm just messing around
i just believe they are flexible as frik
o i kno, no hard feels to any in this chat
They went above and beyond that though in their predictions @Ottobon , they claimed that capitalism would end authoritarian and totalitarian regimes.
unless you wana call me RUDE
THEN IMA CUT A BIRCH
The Nazi Riot in Chemnitz is the best example. Because there were no Nazis and I didn't see a riot. It was a protest by normal persons.
well if one was expecting instant results that would be foolish ace
Where hasn't it?
Don't harm innocent trees that is very rude
That was one of their main talking points against communism back when the Soviet union was still around.
@>Cytos, de lieve goede synth ur rude dood
aite this tree's gonna get it now
What country has a free market and an authoritarian regime?
@Ace K But you have to admit things have liberated a good deal since the Soviet Union, at the very least.
China, for the record, is a command economy
The same country that has a fucntional socalist government
*carves a "i heart philosophical hirarchies" in a tree with a lil heart around it*
@Beemann UK has an Authoritarian Regime and free(ish) Market.
UK is by definition neither of those things
ähm.....
They seem to jail people they don't like
Well with Xi Jinping in command, those liberations might be gone, since he seems to be very intent on echoing Mao Zedong
"Juan Linz's influential 1964 description of authoritarianism[2] characterized authoritarian political systems by four qualities:
Limited political pluralism, that is such regimes place constraints on political institutions and groups like legislatures, political parties and interest groups;
A basis for legitimacy based on emotion, especially the identification of the regime as a necessary evil to combat "easily recognizable societal problems" such as underdevelopment or insurgency;
Minimal social mobilization most often caused by constraints on the public such as suppression of political opponents and anti-regime activity;
Informally defined executive power with often vague and shifting powers.[3]"
unless we go full ANCAP there is no such thing as a totally free market @Beemann , but its plain to see China has turned more towards free market and benefitted because of it
Yes, and it will continue to benefit the more free it becomes
@Ace K But he's getting pushback. One big change since the days of Mao is that the party does opinion polls and tries to manage it by following the population.
ok so we agree on this much
well within reason, im not for ANCAP lol
But I doubt we'll have a free market and a stable authoritarian govt in China
but yes in reference to china