Message from @Rouqen
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I want to try
And I need info if it is possible and how
I moved my sister to center left
I'm convinced I could repeat the process given time
With a non relative
Ok
How did you do it
Did you hit her with facts over and over again?
Start off with the obviously ridiculous examples at the extreme end of what prominent voices are actually saying, play devil's advocate for a moderate right wing position
Openly devils advocate mind
I'd say the most important thing to do is first figure out whether they're discussing things in good faith with you or not. If you want to change people's minds you typically need to be understanding of their views and empathetic. But that will just get you taken advantage of by the typical far left talking points
Like "well they probably think this"
That too yeah, they have to be willing to listen
A lot don't
They just shut you up
Or just shout
If it's a public conversation with someone like that then it's probably impossible especially with their friends coming to back them up, but you can at least give them enough rope to hang themselves and maybe convince any spectators that they might not be in the right
But yeah, just constantly telling someone "you're wrong" is almost never going to work regardless of how many facts you have to back it up. People dig their heels into the ground and double down when someone acts like that since they don't care about who's right so much as 'winning' the discussion and probably more importantly not letting you 'win'
I would say it needs to be private conversations with people you already have some sort of relationship with
I shifted a friend on Antifa
That is impressive
By explaining that they define shit so broadly that it puts me in danger
And others like me
Do speeches ever work
Like
Fact presentations
That happen to touch the topic
"I have a dream" shit doesn't work, and raw statistics isn't ideal
Make it all personal and localized
"This is how this could affect you or someone like you"
If they don't agree and aren't actually interested in understanding your view that's just going to bore and annoy them
Present your ideas from an empathetic standpoint
The left wing narrative right now is all about targeted empathy. Divert the course of the river
I don't think there's any one real answer to this question. But deeply understanding their views and how to properly explain your own is probably the most important thing to it.
Lile making class speeches about class shit that happens to touch a topic. Just drop a kernel of truth there. And there. And just kinda show them all the facts with credited science sources they can check by themselves.
Can such a scheme work
I am in Cali I remind you
It is hard to maka just a speech with a 180 opinion
Most of the far left regressivism sounds like it makes sense and is morally right on first viewing and that makes it a very awkward sort of thing to counter
Yeah don't do public attempts