Say wut?

What does that mean?

I mean I KNOW what MGTOW means I just mean what's this about a tag?

Hmmmm....interesting. I don't know. Maybe it's because I was red pilled while married? Me not know

I've heard that I can't be fully MGTOW because I'm still married and not trying to get divorced

SHYEAH...cuz that's racist!

HOWEVER, I do agree with pretty much everything regarding the philosophy

OK, back to no-fap...I've got a trigger-girl, too. There's this female that works at the place where I buy my booze...she's ridiculous and tough to get out of your mind...she's pretty much the ONLY woman I know that makes me have those thirsty thoughts. I can say with all certainty that those are my best workout days

I'm always glad to hear someone else opine to the importance of pouring your heart and soul into everything you do that you believe in...I only workout because I don't wanna be a fat slob like pretty much everyone in my mom's family...but my woodworking is my real passion

and @poizon yes...the curves. BUT it's also that she has a calming demeanor that oddly enough agitates me...she's SO normal looking and pretty but not so hot that you have to look at her through a pair of eclpse goggles

Seriously, you won't regret it...I mean I got so good at it there before I quit that I could knock one out in about a minute...and then I felt like garbage for the rest of the day

I just turned 44

And you know @poizon that's pretty much what it is...she's not overtly friendly the way they're expected to be in the service industry...just KIND and pleasant. Rare qualities in the ditch pigs I'm used to seeing around this place

Well, TBH there's a LOT of rail thin meth heads around here couple with a doubly large number of land whales with very few honest ta goodness pretty people

game my wife? Do you mean do I still romance her?

OH, no...she understands what I've been through with my divorce and she's opened her eyes to the truth behind the philosophy. I still overwhelm her sometimes with my dislike of the family court systems and all that is feminism but she's just a cool person...and patient

As much as a guy can red pill his wife...she just turned 41

Yes...I've been married to this one 12 years on the 11th

I only learned about MGTOW and the red pill...maybe three years ago

I went down the rabbit hole. I actually took a day off work because I stayed up all night that first night watching everything Terrence Popp had put up

Then when I finally got current with his videos I went over to Sandman and TFM at the same time

That was a rough couple of months

Yeah...and I don't think my first RPR was that powerful because I just went through it again a couple of months ago

@poizon It's funny you ask because Mrs. rart asked me the same question...I flatly told her I never would have even gotten to our first date if I'd been red pilled (properly) before we met

You'd think having my high school sweetheart-turned-wife getting knocked up by a chad (with twins no less) would have been a catalyst of some type but all I did was dip out...before we made it the final divorce hearing she had a set of twin boys and then another girl bringing her count up to five kids/three dads

Eh...regarding my marriage, it works for what it is and she knows how I feel about it but we don't really discuss THAT. We actively work on the relationshit so there isn't a divorce...turns out a woman CAN enjoy being married to someone she's not cuckolding

Also there's no dominance...it's cooperative. She stays out of my hair and I occasionally build her shit made of wood

She is absolutely NOT a sexual person. I can have it when I require it from her (i.e. she doesn't say no) but it would be nice if she turned on the charm for me so I don't feel like a panhandler out on the side of the street shaking my little tin cup

There are worse things than being a 'pussy-beggar' I suppose...but nothing stunning comes to mind at the moment.

I may have mentioned this before when I first got in here but I claim nothing said under the influence of alcohol...for having been raised by the nastiest misogynist this side of the Rio Grande I sure did turn out to be kind of thirsty dude when I was younger...but back in the 90s all this shit was cool. Feminism and gynocentric family courts have wrecked the western hemisphere in record time I tell ya

And if that sounded foreign then you're absolutely right...my DAD, not my mom, was the custodial parent when they got divorced and I'll tell you how it happened because I could have easily ended up with that chick. He showed up to the custody hearing and she got baked her in her car (where she was living) and overslept

And no it's not that complex...I think I mentioned that I don't game her. She's informed about my red pilled 'condition' and never says no when I take her by the hand to the bedroom...or wherever we end up

Well...I'm gonna go with a definite maybe?

Well I probably shouldn't say she 'never' initiates...she's a human chick so she's got needs too. I'd say one in five is her coming on to me.

Well I'm level six now...what's that mean in discord terms?

At any point do we get permission to change our nicknames?

I've got one I use for all my youtube comments and stuff...kinda like to carry it over

LOL...tinky winky? I haven't seen a teletubby since my first daughter was 2...so over 20 years

Like she picked you up and punted you under a table or you insulted the honor of her gash and she shin-barked you with her manolo-blahneks?

So seriously, I wonder how many MGTOW brothers truly are just one blowie away from being back on the plantation?

They may just be dabbling

Hmm...I hadn't considered that. I was looking at it like they're a man finding themselves single and enjoying it for a time and suddenly they meet someone who wants to play tonsil hockey with their vein riddled meat pipe

@RTheWriter Well...you've got a largely captive audience

Slow grinding my muscular buttocks...I got hit by the red pill reality like a two ton heavy thing to the face!

BASKET OF NOPE?! Stealing that...just sayin'

Chortled a little coke zero out of my right nostril...now I got wet nose hairs GROSS

Yup, slip away my man...it's a tough reality but I would be willing to lay down dolla bills that she's already talking to someone else...it might just be a friendly glance here and there or straight up 'talking' but she's ready to pull an orbiter off the bench the second you ship

ON THE OTHER HAND, as a former Army man I can tell you that NOTHING will catapault your future like a good solid career in the military...any branch will do

This isn't really the audience for THAT, per se but I know personally I'm always willing to listen to a brother because at the end of the day unless you're truly dyed-in-the-wool blue pilled you're going to see the logic of it

@Xychotic Yeah, what this guy said! Don't forget that you're talking to a room full of men who accept that marriage and any LTR is nothing more than a business transaction. Love is just that squishy feeling to help you get to reproduction faster

@RTheWriter Also don't forget that backing out from your enlistment now will have some pretty serious consequences for the rest of your life...I mean like BAD legal shit.

Oh there's that too...but they'll come at you with some off the wall precedents...there's probably going to be fines and possibly jail time

One way or the other you're going to get a sternly worded letter from your recruiter

I think the navy would be a boon to your future...the girl...not so much

Because she WON'T wait...i can guarantee it

It's not a matter of IF...but WHEN...I've never seen them NOT cheat when given half an opportunity. You can't exercise your manly control over them if you're not there. While the cat's away the mice will play is NOT about cats and mice. It's about women doing the things women do while you're out of the picture

Look at it like this...if she's still single and hasn't broken the gears on the cock carrousel when you blow back into town give it a whirl but don't expect her to roll up the sidewalk the second you ship out

Honestly you probably need more time with red pilled content...it means nothing to women. They don't experience love the same way we do

UGH...i can't juggle sandman AND this convo. Ok I can't actually give you citation at the moment but I've encountered LOADS of information online regarding how women don't experience the same depth of emotion that we do...like they're legit wired differently and think of themselves first when they consider love

Like what will I get if I hook up with this guy...that's seriously how they think

Dear lord....

OH my gosh, you're right! Divorce rate IS higher in the military

AND they pretty much spoon feed your wallet to them because in some twisted bizzaro logic they think you're more likely to re-up AFTER a divorce since the ex is getting like...all the dollars

Hey it's uh....basic combat training in every branch EXCEPT the marines...

But anyway you've gotten a lot of advice so far the point of it all is it doesn't matter what women say...they use words like magic spells and expect wingardium levioSAH to happen

A woman will say ANYTHING to get her pet wallet to do things for her

I've been down this road...the safe bet in this instance is do your enlistment, don't get married, don't get anyone pregnant

I'm sure the time meant something to you but when you consider that marriage is the absolute worst business contract a man can get into one has to believe the logic which states that a woman will do and say anything for safety, security and resources

I know! It's heart breaking to see the cycle repeating itself over and over...I've been there and many of these guys have been there, too. It's all around us...if you want to see the truth you will. Observe OTHER people in LTRs or heck parents of your friends...I'm sure some of them totally despise one another

At the end of the day this really does fall on you. This is at the very core of red pill philosophy...if your way involves this girl then so be it but you've been warned...a LOT by the looks of things!

That figure I think only tracks the first five years...the remaining for the next five years ends up totaling something like 75%...so after ten years only 25% of marriages limp on....HEY, me and Mrs. rart made it past 10!

PHEW...HHH be crop dusting on a playa's feelings!

Once you start compromising on something as huge as your career for a girl you'll find that she'll expect you to compromise on a whole lot of other things and it won't seem so bad at first but then you end up with an oppressive mortgage and a minivan

You won't...it's the nature of being a man who isn't a Chad/Tyrone...she'll always be one of your loves. But the silver lining is that even when she's old and fat with cankles she'll still be a woman you loved

Watch a few episodes of ArmyWives...that shit appears far fetched and scandalous but it's totally not...those women were NASTY!

yeah it's a TV show...it's on Hulu but I think it's had its final season

@RTheWriter Bro that's it right there! She's basically shoving you out the door/

UGH...church girls are the worst!

AWWWWW...was I being trolled?

Oh man I'm going to be so disgusting! Mrs. rart's chili from last night has been turned up to 11! I haven't even finished my bowl and I'm blowing off Alabama steamers that might be the blight of Washington county

I think all my hair might fall out....

yeah, where you been?

At least two other people in here know I'm red pilled while married

Yeah buddy...I went through el red pill rage multiple times!

Well it's not like I pitched her down the stairs or anything

But at one point we did take a break and there were a LOT of lap dances involved...and a DUI. Not proud of any of it

Oh psh...naw.

Over the course of a few months I probably put a half dozen strippers through cosmetology school...

It got better

At least for the moment I'm not worried about being 'divorce graped' (thank you Coach)

Oh gawd...whenever I think of it I get the heebs thinking those girls got REAL close to me...*shudders*

@RTheWriter I want you to dip your toe into something here...do a youtube search OR go to redonkulas.com and look for 'The Working Man's Survival Guide'...it's a great video and it's just the thing that will get you brain thinking again

Most of us aren't going to 'I told you so' you

We know the logic behind what men have been going through for ages

So she didn't even wait for you to leave?

I bet she'll spin it like, "I just wanted your choice to be easier so I hooked up with this guy yaddayaddayadda"

this is what women do...they try to make everything about them while it's all your fault

Yikes...that's a bit offsides

Ok meme question here...what's the yellow cone for on Chad's head?

Oh, ok...like a faux hawk