lots but trumpet is my fav 🙂

all brass really, but i also like piano, recorder, and drums

i'm acctualy fuzzy on where the term Jew came from

can anyone explain?

I actually like more jazz. But for recorder there’s not much of that :p

thanks that makes sense

@Mercy ikr? so annoying

yup 👍

Well they seem to think it’s virtuous to hate white people and call the racist and all that

well, thats the problem with their ideology, they claim this hierarchy of diversity but then claim things like there's no definable difference between women and men so you can be either or both or neither

i find it to be a problem anyway

inconsistency is a detractor from any ideology

what'll you bet love exists :p

catholics lol

i've had that happen, people get mad at me i mean

sadly yes 😦

that is what keeps my going, thank you

kinda agree exept for the part where it says that the angle touched his hip and he had a limp from then on

just sounds physical to me

so the people that Revelation called Synagogues of Satan were specifically the people who said they were Jews but were not. they were infiltrators of the church who it says were blasphemous.

so they we're not all Jews, to say that would be taking the verse terribly out of context and missleading

and the part about John 8:44 is also completely false and taken out of context. Jesus is talking to the Pharisees there, NOT to or about the entire Jewish state

not trying to discount anything you said, just throwing in my 2 cents 👍

well said, well said

fair but that meme is still absurdly out of context and just plain misleading

what No Mercy said is true

if you read those verses in context you will see that they do not mean what that meme implies

i have memorized that whole chapter, it is very specific

that is not speaking broadly of the nation of israel, it is speaking very specifically of people in Smyrna

you are decontextualizing that whole passage

that is verifiably not true not, you know how to verify it? read the passage in context. read all of revelation if you have to

this is truth. context matters

🤦‍♂️ he does not call the children of Satan in any of those verses

I am so confused as to your point here. You’re taking these verses so far out of context in order to prove that we should not support Israel or something?

it seems pretty obvious to me from reading the passage that John is referring very specifically to people in the church at Smyrna who claimed to be Jews but were instead propagating lies

no thats absurd

he is talking to the pharasees and jews who were slandering his ministry

he was sent to Isreal... First to the Jew then to the Greek

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that "sentence" does not make sense to me, please explain what you mean

we do call ourselves Christians because we follow Jesus in his death and resurrection as Paul says, how does this mean he is the god only of the jew??

it never ever anywhere says that he is God of only Isreal

Any who follow Jesus are his people but the Jews were still seperate even during the early church

so, lets see if we cant get to the root of your argument. we are Gods people so we should not support Isreal. this sounds political to me...

we are under the grace of Jesus, not the old Law, we follow the law still because it is God's good will for our lives and the Spirit compels us to but we are not justified by the Abrahamic covenant anymore

truth

we are no longer under the law, we are justified under the grace of Jesus

yup

exactly

these are pretty basic fundamentals... I don't see why you need to take the Bible out of context to prove this

um, you took those verses from revelation and john WAY out of context

no... no it doesnt...

because what you took to mean that Jews are children of satan actually was Jesus saying the Pharisees were children of satan. when you said that revelation said that Jews were a synagogue of satan, what it actually said was that the imposter Jews who were not Jews were a synagogue of satan. this is taking a verse and making it mean what it does not mean which id taking it out of context which is misleading

also i dont understand how these catholic traditions have anything to do which what Jesus said in that passage

what he said there yes does have to do with modern communion but not specificaly the catholic traditions

yes, the protestant movement has communion as well, but it is different from the catholic version

ok so why do you say we must do the catholic traditions? do the protestant traditions count as well?

Eucharist , Mass like repeating and remembering of Lords sacrifice are all catholic traditions

ok, how did you get specifically catholic traditions from that verse? because, like i said, protestants do their own communion

you said Eucharist , Mass like repeating and remembering of Lords sacrifice, these are all catholic traditions...

ok, i think i understand. you were not saying specifically catholic traditions, just calling them as the Catholics do

sorry, i'm having trouble posting it :p

this meme

its entire point is dependent on taking each verse it lists out of context

so that's what we were originally discussing, somehow we gt on the topic of communion from there lol

i kind am confused as to how that happened too, I don't understand what communion has to do with taking verses out of context in order to say do't support Israel or something

i do not know

they have kinda been hated for all their history

no idea, i was under the impression that Jesus commands us to love all people, and i feel like that includes Israel

that is a good point

i still dont understand how that applies to taking the bible out of context to hate on Israel

well, he essentially created the entire church

you posted that earlier, it is not speaking of all Jews

He did not call all Jews sons of Satan there

well, what he means by children are followers, and he's talking to the Pharisees who are trying to convict him of sin

and he says that to the pharasees not to the whole nation of Israel, that is a false interpretation

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he is talking to the pharasees! not the whole jewish nation!

a lot of them did follow Jesus though, 3000 on the day of Petacost

this is true, but why did you have to take the Bible out of context to say that? thats my question

children of satan doesnt mean demon per se, just someone who does not follow God

proving your points with out of context verses is not good hermanudics

its rather bad actually

yes but what Jesus means in this passage is not literal worshipers of satan, just people who do not follow God

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he's not saying you specificaly

he means generaly as an example i think

if we're done talking about those horrendously out of context verses ima drop out of the convo for now

do you need me?

i'll stick around, i'll just observe for now tho, got some other stuffs to do as well

yes

my entire point earlier

dont mind me i'm just lurking :p

i think he said that about christians, not unsaved people

Jesus says whoever does the will of god is my brotehr and sister

Mark 3:31-35 is where that is BTW 🙂

the Bible says believe of the lord Jesus and you will be saved, if you don't believe that then you aren't saved

Bible does not suport pergatory

Bible says that once it is appointed a man to die and after that the judgment Hebrews 9:27

it never even mentions a place after death where you can repent