hello

trump gets shit done. thats a pretty good reason

but its a china virus

how does he mean it in a racist way. chinese is not a race

@Tookses you sound like a liberal to be honest. having one conservative opinion does not make you a centrist

@Tookses so as a european it blows my mind that democrat mayors let cities burn and people die to win the election. how do you justify that if you gonna vote for them ?

lol

why the debate though .4 years of work is not enough to make a decision about this, but a debate is ?

debate is not gonna teach you anything

Im about to recommend the intellectual dark web for education lol

lol thats a troll

probably not though 😄

sometimes discord feels like twitter

tough question. for a 13 years child abortion would be the less traumatizing thing to do. the damage is already done though, but adding pregnancy and labor to that at such a young age is basically prolonging the event with 9 months . the traumatizing part about rape is that you have zero control, cant protect yourself, can loose your life in any moment also. pregnancy when you are 100% dependent and your environment could not protect you before is a nightmare, you live in constant fear

gonna be a popcorn worthy show

important question. I have a vanilla candle. and a raspberry candle. which on should I use first

thats every discord server lately

what you need to consider is who you are willing to sacrifice

its not about comfort, ptsd is not curable

the government should not make this decision, a child can't make it yet, parents should but who knows if they qualify at all

not sure what you mean. abortion is legal, so the government is not making the decision atm

but its not that simple. cause you shoulnt have the right to make a decision over other people's life like that

what you doing for the unborn child? you can't go like " oh this is want I want other people to do " and then their freedom is ripped off and they are forced to do what you think they should do . and that can go wrong in a lot of ways. thats why its not that simple

I dont think we should make decisions about minors who were raped

as outsiders

@Porcupioneer no, my reasoning is you gonna ruin one life anyway. you are willing to sacrifice the life of that kid cause they got raped

it sends a message that if you get raped you are not gonna be treated as a person anymore cause you got no choice at all

@Rocci we specifically talked about minor rape victims

bring what up

Im not debating. I added my two cents

other than that I dont care if you change your mind about it or not. thankfully not my concern

I said the same. the life of one person is not your choice

so are the mothers. and you shouldn't have the right to make decisions over other people's life like that

you are a civilian. you shouldn't have power over another person's life like that

you not controlling them, but you want to. and Im saying that is just as wrong

you said the law should be changed

thats what you want personally

since we talked abour minor rape victims, I was arguing that forcing that child to give birth is just as morally wrong

and you kept saying it doesnt matter

so we are back to how what you want would control someone's else life

so in the end, according to you they should not have the freedom to escape from the nightmare

so you would wanna make this decisions over them anyway

which is what I said

so I don't know why that was confusing

I never said abortion is right

we talked about minor rape victim. its not that simple

Im not defending abortion for irresponsible 20+ bitches

its not. and thats why I dont think there should be some clear cut law about this, its a case by case situation

yeah in an ideal world every kid gets adopted. in reality most of them dont

thats a naive approach. you should see some orphanages inside . they stab each other for a candy

you keep creating more problems we can't solve on a society level. sure when it comes down to murder, that's an easy decisions, murder is wrong. on a bigger scale it's not that simple. and there are many many similar shitty decisions we should make, but can't, cause it's on the line, and then the people who happen to be in the unfortunate situation are left behind with no help whatsoever

there are many similar things. what about parents with horribly disabled kids. we don't kill those kids. they wouldn't kill them either. but then what do we do? we do nothing about it

I dont know what would be better. neither does the law

Im not talking about down syndrome though .there are people born with much worse disabilities

what do you do about someone who is always gonna be mentally a baby for example

I didnt say their life matters less. it was an example that there are a lot complex situations, not just the rape victim

you for some reason wanna prove that I think people's life is worthless or something, so Im done here

Im not claiming victim, you keep arguing about something else, which Im not interested in

what did I miss

ah. liberals

discord is not a freedom of speech application to begin with

log chan 😂

and now I guess I want a log

lol

from what I heard germany is getting overly progressive lately

quickly americans asleep. vote for the metric system