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2020-11-22 22:34:47 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

I highly suspect we've been set up for disappointment

2020-11-22 22:35:02 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Well, 36-48 hours to Monday release I suppose so we'll find out

2020-11-22 22:40:19 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

I'm not saying Kamala is Hillary 2.0, I'm just saying I wouldn't be surprised if 100 days into his presidency Biden wakes up with food poisoning

2020-11-22 23:19:29 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Honestly, wouldn't bother me

2020-11-22 23:19:44 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

People might learn a bit more about how the President is elected

2020-11-22 23:20:46 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Honestly the best part about this is all of the conspiracy theories I'm gonna be able to find on Bitchute afterwards

2020-11-22 23:22:04 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

@james j If it becomes a contingent election, then so be it. Constitution covered this. I have no problems with the system working as intended

2020-11-22 23:23:03 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

This year is just an anomaly due to states rushing out voter changes due to the Chinese virus

2020-11-22 23:23:44 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

There's a reason we have 3 separate but equal branches of government

2020-11-22 23:24:00 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

You can't just "make stuff up", the SCOTUS isn't going to sacrifice its legitimacy for a singular president

2020-11-22 23:24:40 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Interested parties will ensure it does and if it doesn't the votes will be certified

2020-11-22 23:30:45 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

@james j Just because I say "I don't think these ballots were sent fairly" doesn't mean the ballot is disputed. Otherwise there's no reason either party can't just lawyer up and complain about ballots

2020-11-22 23:31:10 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

At this time, unless something really big happens in the courts, there's no reason for states to not certify their votes and send electors

2020-11-22 23:32:00 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Deadlines are deadlines and December 14th will come. Unlike the general election, that election doesn't get to drag out for an extra month

2020-11-22 23:36:20 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Well bribery is illegal

2020-11-22 23:36:44 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Are you suggesting that we're going to start accepting outcomes which were obtained by criminal acts?

2020-11-22 23:36:54 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Do you think the American people will not hold these people accountable?

2020-11-22 23:39:29 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

It's a possibility that Santa Claus is real but I don't leave my Christmas tree out

2020-11-22 23:40:26 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

I think a lot of people are overblowing this election. It plays out, Biden wins, he wins. nbd. Try again in 2 and in 4 years

2020-11-22 23:41:12 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

I wasn't saying it wasn't possible without magic. I was just pointing out that we don't typically take actions based on statistically unlikely outcomes

2020-11-22 23:41:48 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

In grad school I had to calculate the probability of one of my electrons being on the moon. I'm not panicking because I don't have a space suit

2020-11-22 23:42:42 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Well MI has already certified and I don't think they can take it back so it's not like MI is changing

2020-11-22 23:43:38 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

This is why I've been saying you need to stop with your conspiracies and whatnot. We don't need this discussion of how the President Stole the Election

2020-11-22 23:43:47 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Damn I should copyright that fast

2020-11-22 23:44:36 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

If we're talking about bribery, what's to stop anyone from bribing anyone to get the outcome they want?

2020-11-22 23:45:27 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

This is why I'm just so confused about why JJ is going on about these bribery conspiracies

2020-11-22 23:46:00 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Again, my electrons can be on the moon but I don't panic about it

2020-11-22 23:46:36 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

And I would say that bribery is about as likely

2020-11-22 23:48:05 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Yes, that's why they changed the rules but I think the underlying point is you need to reach across the aisle instead

2020-11-22 23:48:12 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

"Gotta talk to em Joe"

2020-11-22 23:49:19 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Can you give me the time stamp where R&R says that the president bribes state officials to halt a certification?

2020-11-22 23:49:37 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Yeah I latched onto bribery because you said bribery

2020-11-22 23:49:49 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

It's possible for me to bribe them too

2020-11-22 23:50:44 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

It's just a silly claim to make either way

2020-11-22 23:50:55 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

President Trump can do it, and Biden... cannot?

2020-11-22 23:51:12 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Again, you're pointing out things of very little consequence

2020-11-22 23:51:30 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Bribery isn't out of the question for anyone. Anyone can bribe anyone

2020-11-22 23:51:35 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

You don't even need money

2020-11-22 23:52:04 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

It's a possibility that I am in the same room you are

2020-11-22 23:52:09 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Don't turn around

2020-11-22 23:52:33 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

We don't typically talk about possibilities which are so miniscule as to be insignificant

2020-11-22 23:53:05 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

It's pretty far fetched ya

2020-11-22 23:53:13 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

And I'd say the same for anyone

2020-11-22 23:53:35 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Actually he's not in power with leverage

2020-11-22 23:53:45 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

If all things go as they currently look to be going, he will be out of power in about 2 months

2020-11-22 23:54:01 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

So why would I commit a crime to get power from a guy who if my gamble fails will be out in 2 months

2020-11-22 23:54:15 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

IF

2020-11-22 23:54:26 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

But by all accounts it looks like he won't

2020-11-22 23:54:39 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

And he has to do this with what, 3/4 states?

2020-11-22 23:54:46 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

And not get caught?

2020-11-22 23:55:24 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

It's not that I think he's above doing it, it's that it's so unlikely to do it that I don't think we really care

2020-11-22 23:55:42 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

It's possible Biden already bribed the MI representatives

2020-11-22 23:55:46 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Let's go investigate

2020-11-22 23:55:48 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

????

2020-11-22 23:55:57 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

See how this "possibility" thing is silly?

2020-11-22 23:56:29 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

No I really don't care whether anyone says that President Trump would bribe anyone

2020-11-22 23:56:40 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

It's just a silly accusation here

2020-11-22 23:56:59 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Because it is silly

2020-11-22 23:57:32 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

The route of committing crimes?

2020-11-22 23:57:35 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Pretty sure I already said that's bad

2020-11-22 23:57:44 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

But I did say the citizens would hold the reps accountable

2020-11-22 23:58:31 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

And I don't particularly mind if the citizens votes within the states don't matter because they weren't supposed to matter anyway

2020-11-22 23:58:55 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

I'm in favor of repealing the 17th after all

2020-11-22 23:59:50 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

This is the system that we have now so it is the constitutionally approved way

2020-11-23 00:00:07 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

I might disagree with the changes we've made since the 1800's but that's a personal issue

2020-11-23 00:00:22 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Where is the "not as intended" portion?

2020-11-23 00:01:22 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

I mean, you've been ragging on about this bribery claim but that can be done any year by any candidate

2020-11-23 00:01:47 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Why doesn't the losing candidate do it every time if it's a magic bullet to victory

2020-11-23 00:03:10 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Well that's why we have courts

2020-11-23 00:03:46 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

I just can't understand why you're hyper focusing on this "possibility" which is a possibility every election

2020-11-23 00:04:23 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Well no, if the election results in a contingent election then it's system working as intended.

2020-11-23 00:04:51 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

It sounds like you're saying that all contingent elections are not working as intended?

2020-11-23 00:05:09 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

There are a ton of possibilities

2020-11-23 00:05:25 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Typically we ignore possibilities that are unlikely

2020-11-23 00:05:42 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

It's possible that a meteor will strike my PC in 2 seconds but I'm not frantically looking at the sky

2020-11-23 00:06:02 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

I'm just confused as to why you're focusing on possibilities that are highly unlikely

2020-11-23 00:06:27 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Well you can't spam the courts with made-up allegations

2020-11-23 00:06:31 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

They'd get tossed out

2020-11-23 00:06:48 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

It's a holiday, I'm just killing time while vibin

2020-11-23 00:07:26 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

As the President's learning, you can't just sue your way to victory. Maybe.

2020-11-23 00:08:48 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Well no, because what you're saying is

President Trump: The election was rigged, democracy was undermined, you need to restore it by not legitimizing these undermined results
You: The president is undermining democracy

2020-11-23 00:09:03 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

To be clear, I'm not saying that the results are illegitimate

2020-11-23 00:09:26 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

I'm saying, the President is saying that, so this idea that he's purposefully trying to undermine democracy is a stretch

2020-11-23 00:10:19 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

if the claims are baseless, they won't stand in court, the states will certify and nothing changes

2020-11-23 00:11:01 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

It's not gaming the system if you're acting in good faith

2020-11-23 00:11:18 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

The President believes there was fraud, he wants to spend money to pursue it, let him spend his money

2020-11-23 00:11:46 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

It's pretty hard to rile me up unless w're talking about best girl between Rei and Asuka ๐Ÿ˜† ~~It's Asuka btw~~

2020-11-23 00:12:36 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Let's say it's not in good faith. President Trump will lose, lawyers might get disbarred, states certify and all proceeds normally

2020-11-23 00:13:05 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

I still cannot buy this conspiracy that the President is attacking the process that was laid out 200 years ago

2020-11-23 00:13:54 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

I also don't buy that either

2020-11-23 00:14:13 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

You're telling me that people familiar with monarchs didn't think bribery would ever come into play?

2020-11-23 00:14:35 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Oh you don't like the word bribery, let's say persuasion

2020-11-23 00:14:48 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

You think monarchs were unable to engage in persuasion

2020-11-23 00:15:02 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

It's a tool in everyone's tool box

2020-11-23 00:16:46 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

They were lawyers

2020-11-23 00:17:01 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Lawyers don't think of situations where people try to game the system?

2020-11-23 00:17:37 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

And the probability of doing so is so small that we don't care

2020-11-23 00:19:31 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

I don't see the problem with wanting to verify that the votes that were cast were legitimate

2020-11-23 00:19:54 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Especially when mail-in ballots are more likely to be fraudulent, and they're so fraudulent the EU refuses to use them in most cases

2020-11-23 00:20:41 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

History finds a way to look favorably on Presidents. People still think FDR was good

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