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2018-10-10 06:58:10 UTC [Subverse #general]  

no matter how basic your job is?

2018-10-10 06:58:41 UTC [Subverse #general]  

dutch

2018-10-10 06:58:50 UTC [Subverse #general]  

just basic understanding for the most basic jobs

2018-10-10 06:58:52 UTC [Subverse #general]  

its on all of them

2018-10-10 06:59:27 UTC [Subverse #general]  

The way i see this, is that they are handicapping these people from the getgo by not giving them even the most basic tool to function in this country

2018-10-10 06:59:45 UTC [Subverse #general]  

but clearly many people disagree with me on that

2018-10-10 07:01:11 UTC [Subverse #general]  

you do and thats how my friend learned it the hard way

2018-10-10 07:01:17 UTC [Subverse #general]  

basically how i learned english

2018-10-10 07:01:30 UTC [Subverse #general]  

by annoying the shit out of english speaking people by constantly asking what words meant

2018-10-10 07:03:00 UTC [Subverse #general]  

We got 3 recognized languages here

2018-10-10 07:03:09 UTC [Subverse #general]  

but the city i live in has more nationalities in it then New york

2018-10-10 07:03:41 UTC [Subverse #general]  

yeah i know

2018-10-10 07:03:45 UTC [Subverse #general]  

its not the same here

2018-10-10 07:05:09 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Heh

2018-10-10 07:05:13 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I speak 5 atm

2018-10-10 07:05:43 UTC [Subverse #general]  

but they only expect you to speak 2 properly

2018-10-10 07:06:20 UTC [Subverse #general]  

But here is another example i always give to people

2018-10-10 07:06:55 UTC [Subverse #general]  

back in the 90s we had a large movement of eastern europeans coming in due to the whole balkan conflict

2018-10-10 07:10:43 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I dont recall anyone calling anyone racist for pointing out these people were disproportionally committing a huge amount of crime.
Hell even the police chief here was quoted saying "at least theyre so nice to solve their own problems" as a reference to all the murdering going on.
But everyone was sick of it.

We got the same thing today only on a much larger scale in terms of people coming in.
But now the reply is that when you point out how theyre disproportionally represented in the crime stats & jail population, you are called a racist and thats the end of the debate.
Theres just no looking into what is causing these problems, cops get told to stand down due to fear of things escalating whenever theres a confrontation and so on

2018-10-10 07:11:28 UTC [Subverse #general]  

The latter has a caveat tho*

2018-10-10 07:11:36 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Depends on what city and who it is ran by

2018-10-10 07:12:16 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Prolly the best one is a city south of me which is a liberal

2018-10-10 07:12:35 UTC [Subverse #general]  

he seems to have found a good recipe for dealing with these issues

2018-10-10 07:13:49 UTC [Subverse #general]  

it just depends on how big the cultural difference is and the language barrier i think

2018-10-10 07:14:09 UTC [Subverse #general]  

and quantity vs period of time

2018-10-10 07:15:01 UTC [Subverse #general]  

yea i been there once

2018-10-10 07:15:04 UTC [Subverse #general]  

bali

2018-10-10 07:16:00 UTC [Subverse #general]  

but barely anyone ever pays attention to whats going on in belgium anyways

2018-10-10 07:16:05 UTC [Subverse #general]  

were a poststamp on the map

2018-10-10 07:18:38 UTC [Subverse #general]  

yea i dont think thats limited to people from asia ๐Ÿ˜„

2018-10-10 07:21:25 UTC [Subverse #general]  

i dont know, apparently they do and know more of the combined history then people think

2018-10-10 07:22:58 UTC [Subverse #general]  

at least they understand that they cant expect the current generation to "fix the past" i cant do anything to fix that. But i can say that i never thought about anything regarding race untill recently when people started to non stop talk about it.

2018-10-10 07:23:22 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Some think we should but you always gonna have those people regardless

2018-10-10 07:23:57 UTC [Subverse #general]  

it is fair to say tho that schools should do more teaching about our history with congo

2018-10-10 07:24:05 UTC [Subverse #general]  

because i learned very little of that in school

2018-10-10 07:24:34 UTC [Subverse #general]  

but in a factual way not in the "you are bad because history" way

2018-10-10 07:26:30 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Thats what history does but the current mentality seems to think that history needs to be rewritten

2018-10-10 07:27:33 UTC [Subverse #general]  

thats another thing

2018-10-10 07:28:13 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Today we think of things that were held dear and were normal 50 years or so ago as reprehensible

2018-10-10 07:28:45 UTC [Subverse #general]  

But what people always do, and i dont think that will ever go away, is to think that NOW we reached the end point.

2018-10-10 07:29:09 UTC [Subverse #general]  

ofc not

2018-10-10 07:29:28 UTC [Subverse #general]  

but you even see that with scientific progress

2018-10-10 07:29:40 UTC [Subverse #general]  

steam engine comes along

2018-10-10 07:29:51 UTC [Subverse #general]  

universe works like this! we finally know!

2018-10-10 07:29:54 UTC [Subverse #general]  

20 years later

2018-10-10 07:29:59 UTC [Subverse #general]  

holy crap we were totally wrong!

2018-10-10 07:30:13 UTC [Subverse #general]  

im not arguing relativism or anything

2018-10-10 07:31:25 UTC [Subverse #general]  

My point is, theres only a handfull of people of each generation that manage to be truly special.

2018-10-10 07:32:03 UTC [Subverse #general]  

And everyone else can only do their best with what their environment at the time considers to be "normal" i guess

2018-10-10 07:32:07 UTC [Subverse #general]  

idk how to put it any other way

2018-10-10 07:32:40 UTC [Subverse #general]  

well yeah thats probably true but i dont expect to be around when tht happens ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

2018-10-10 07:37:11 UTC [Subverse #general]  

im not sure

2018-10-10 07:37:19 UTC [Subverse #general]  

ive seen a lot of stupid things

2018-10-10 07:38:26 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Well if you want to go really dry and dark on him

2018-10-10 07:38:43 UTC [Subverse #general]  

tell him he solved that problem by destroying the demand

2018-10-10 07:38:59 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I never watched the movie so maybe this doesnt make any sense

2018-10-10 07:41:24 UTC [Subverse #general]  

i dont watch marvel movies so i have no idea what this is about xD

2018-10-10 07:43:55 UTC [Subverse #general]  

dont quite get how this ties in with libertarians tho

2018-10-10 07:52:58 UTC [Subverse #general]  

i do

2018-10-10 07:53:10 UTC [Subverse #general]  

but i guess thats because half my family died in those camps

2018-10-10 07:56:05 UTC [Subverse #general]  

i dont really care about holocaust deniers

2018-10-10 07:56:23 UTC [Subverse #general]  

yes and its stupid

2018-10-10 07:57:08 UTC [Subverse #general]  

idk all i know is that the last time i dug into that topic

2018-10-10 07:57:11 UTC [Subverse #general]  

i learned a lot of new things

2018-10-10 07:57:25 UTC [Subverse #general]  

by having to think about my arguments

2018-10-10 07:57:30 UTC [Subverse #general]  

and data

2018-10-10 07:57:44 UTC [Subverse #general]  

yes

2018-10-10 07:59:24 UTC [Subverse #general]  

u know whats ironic

2018-10-10 08:00:19 UTC [Subverse #general]  

that belgium, with its endless stream of pointless bureaucracy and nanny-state approach to everything + being the center of the EU

2018-10-10 08:00:36 UTC [Subverse #general]  

is actually one of the better places in europe when it comes to free speech lol

2018-10-10 08:00:49 UTC [Subverse #general]  

talking EU levels ofc

2018-10-10 08:02:16 UTC [Subverse #general]  

thats possible, im not very aware of the french

2018-10-10 08:02:47 UTC [Subverse #general]  

poland i have no clue

2018-10-10 08:03:06 UTC [Subverse #general]  

i dont think they go along with that whole concept

2018-10-10 08:03:20 UTC [Subverse #general]  

given a lot of people there still remember how it was under communism

2018-10-10 08:05:38 UTC [Subverse #general]  

its possible

2018-10-10 08:07:22 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I think one of my actual friends

2018-10-10 08:07:35 UTC [Subverse #general]  

made one of the silliest comments about why the EU as it is, is a good idea

2018-10-10 08:07:40 UTC [Subverse #general]  

"It will prevent war"

2018-10-10 08:08:04 UTC [Subverse #general]  

because when all these countries are united, they wont have a reason to fight eachother

2018-10-10 08:09:12 UTC [Subverse #general]  

balkan war never happened

2018-10-10 08:11:38 UTC [Subverse #general]  

again ideas like communism are against human nature and biology itself

2018-10-10 08:11:49 UTC [Subverse #general]  

for the simple fact that no human is born the same

2018-10-10 08:11:55 UTC [Subverse #general]  

everyone is unique

2018-10-10 08:16:13 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I dont think thats gonna help much

2018-10-10 08:16:37 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I would be a hypocrit for demanding action against people calling for communism

2018-10-10 08:19:02 UTC [Subverse #general]  

most people here are disengaged from politics

2018-10-10 08:19:30 UTC [Subverse #general]  

if i had to go off what people say about politics in my day to day life and job

2018-10-10 08:19:33 UTC [Subverse #general]  

it would be this:

2018-10-10 08:19:48 UTC [Subverse #general]  

"whatever i vote for, they just keep doing whatever the hell they want"

2018-10-10 08:20:12 UTC [Subverse #general]  

im not saying thats everyone

2018-10-10 08:20:38 UTC [Subverse #general]  

but thats what i generally hear

2018-10-10 08:20:49 UTC [Subverse #general]  

and im from belgium so thats "here"

2018-10-10 08:21:39 UTC [Subverse #general]  

and these are people from across the board

2018-10-10 08:22:03 UTC [Subverse #general]  

they talk about it sure, but actual engagement? not so much

2018-10-10 08:24:03 UTC [Subverse #general]  

eh i wouldnt put too much weight to that

2018-10-10 08:24:14 UTC [Subverse #general]  

u have to understand

2018-10-10 08:24:28 UTC [Subverse #general]  

pretty much the entire world has set foot in this country at one point or another

2018-10-10 08:24:45 UTC [Subverse #general]  

its a bit of a running joke really

2018-10-10 08:26:12 UTC [Subverse #general]  

sure but the thing people tend to refer to is the ghetto areas

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