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2018-11-15 12:44:07 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Man, I don't know if shagging little boys is a good value

2018-11-15 12:44:22 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Being a decent human beats being a good believer by a mile

2018-11-15 12:45:56 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I mean, if you don't propose incorporating the church into people's lives, just the faith, then I get you

2018-11-15 12:46:19 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Yeah, fair

2018-11-15 12:46:30 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Same tbh

2018-11-15 12:48:49 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Yeah, because they have been affected by material life to the point where they don't even need their parent faith to be considered common sense

2018-11-15 12:49:21 UTC [Subverse #general]  

And by all things sacred, we kinda need common sense these days

2018-11-15 12:49:32 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Preferably by the truckload

2018-11-15 13:03:10 UTC [Subverse #general]  

LITERAL
WHITE
SUPREMACY

2018-11-15 14:12:30 UTC [Subverse #general]  

One thing people forget about Norway is that it's rich as hell off its fossil fuel amounts per capita

2018-11-15 14:12:51 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Their system won't work as well in poorer countries

2018-11-15 14:13:21 UTC [Subverse #general]  

@Stefan Payne That's Finland :^))))))))))

2018-11-15 14:15:13 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Except for a real danger of accidental incest, I hear

2018-11-15 14:17:35 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Death penalty can work if used very sparingly, but for sure fuck executions when conducted in a country that has religious institutions merged into the government

2018-11-15 17:18:50 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Well, I mean, what else are they to do, lament it? Creation of modern Israel was something they had no say in, after all

2018-11-15 17:20:08 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Sure, and at the time Israel was created, what was the ratio of muslims versus jews in the area?

2018-11-15 17:20:53 UTC [Subverse #general]  

And the way the creation of Israel was handled sure didn't help things

2018-11-15 17:21:52 UTC [Subverse #general]  

"country here, jews here, everyone settle your problems yourselves now"
t. countries outside of the Middle East carving up territory of the Middle East

2018-11-15 17:22:02 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Sure they are, and they've got no excuse

2018-11-15 17:22:57 UTC [Subverse #general]  

`While the west close their ears and reason their way out of dealing with that ideology.`
That's a weird way to say Israel has powerful allies

2018-11-15 17:23:16 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Not mentioning nuclear tech that got fed to them

2018-11-15 17:24:28 UTC [Subverse #general]  

That's how you keep the borders more or less in the same place and freeze conflicts, yes

2018-11-15 17:25:08 UTC [Subverse #general]  

What do you propose otherwise, carve up the Middle East further?

2018-11-15 17:25:12 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Build a wall, maybe?

2018-11-15 17:25:47 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Israel was created out of thin air, your point?

2018-11-15 17:26:02 UTC [Subverse #general]  

The region is in a shit situation, and it's good enough there's not a hot war going on

2018-11-15 17:28:25 UTC [Subverse #general]  

`Israel is Jewish people returning home after thousands of years of exodus from their nation`
And pretty much settling on lands that have been populated by not jews for a good number of centuries. I get the claims, sure, but I wouldn't be happy if someone placed a family into my house because their several centuries old predecessors lived where my house now stands

2018-11-15 17:29:33 UTC [Subverse #general]  

They have operational nuclear armaments. They aren't on the verge of getting wiped out in the next half a century

2018-11-15 17:35:41 UTC [Subverse #general]  

@Dusty Morgan Israel's active military stands at 176.5k compared to Saudi Arabia's 227k. Count in the difference in population and understand how much more militarized Israel is.With reserve personnel counted in, Israel's army *outnumbers* that of Saudi Arabia by over 2.5 times

2018-11-15 17:36:00 UTC [Subverse #general]  

So please don't paint Israel as some kind of a poor bullied high schooler

2018-11-15 17:57:02 UTC [Subverse #dank-memes-only]  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463059337162653716/512687486133338122/Dr_rCajU4AEycId.png

2018-11-16 12:08:16 UTC [Subverse #fake-news]  

But is it gay to like traps? ๐Ÿค”

2018-11-16 12:09:46 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Reverse traps are hella gay, but only if you're a woman, change my mind.

2018-11-16 13:04:48 UTC [Subverse #general]  

SELL LOW

2018-11-16 13:25:03 UTC [Subverse #general]  

>one finger pointing at the camera
>one country
>one nation
Dalai Lama is a full on literal Hitler, yo

2018-11-16 13:26:39 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Tbqh it can be understood when people are running from war, as in the case of actual Syrians in the early years of theirs, but even then, no one is under an obligation to invite them in

2018-11-16 13:50:55 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Don't they have billboards that say "We know you have a TV"?

2018-11-16 13:51:12 UTC [Subverse #general]  

To put pressure on you to pay the TV tax

2018-11-16 13:53:02 UTC [Subverse #general]  

`I honestly don't think you can have a functioning democracy without freedom of speech.`
You can, but there's no point to having one like that.

2018-11-16 13:54:11 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Democracy is pretty literally mob rule, so to have a democracy, you technically only have to have fair elections. Everything around it can be rigged to hell and back

2018-11-16 13:57:02 UTC [Subverse #general]  

So are you a fan of small anarchic communities? :^)

2018-11-16 14:02:49 UTC [Subverse #general]  

A well intentioned system of coercion is a labor camp

2018-11-16 14:03:03 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Take from that what you will

2018-11-16 14:04:01 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I mean, labor camps did wonders for the industries, that's for sure, but if morality is your goal, then they sure aren't for you

2018-11-16 14:08:44 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Free market never managed to be as quick at growth as labor camps :^)
The point is, with labor camps you don't care about regulations or anything, you can gear them for a result and just throw man-hours at the problem. They exist to go from point A to point B quick and with a guarantee, not to float high with minimal expenditures

2018-11-16 14:11:35 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Coupled with any totalitarian government, they produce huge productivity spikes. The problem is that you run out of people eventually, and those that remain are exhausted to hell and back

2018-11-16 14:12:14 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Oh yeah, and you run out of clear goals too, given time

2018-11-16 14:12:23 UTC [Subverse #general]  

That's the fundamental flaw

2018-11-16 14:17:26 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Modern ones, maybe

2018-11-16 14:17:33 UTC [Subverse #general]  

It's always paid in man-hours though

2018-11-16 14:17:43 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Even if no money is involved

2018-11-16 14:17:53 UTC [Subverse #general]  

And that's a very finite resource

2018-11-16 14:20:48 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Regardless, communists managed to electrify a pretty huge country, drive its literacy rates from 25% to slightly under 90%, and build a metric shitton of heavy industry, all in ~20 years. No free market would be able to do that

2018-11-16 14:22:08 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I'm not calling it a universally superior system, as you've noticed

2018-11-16 14:22:37 UTC [Subverse #general]  

We are on the same page

2018-11-16 14:25:33 UTC [Subverse #general]  

They didn't change the economic model after the war. Lenin had something like the chinese model in mind from the beginning (or rather, the Chinese were smart enough to read his stuff and realize he had a better idea about economy than others), but his way probably wouldn't have withstood WWII. After WWII though, the country desperately needed a change in its economics and political course

2018-11-16 14:26:34 UTC [Subverse #general]  

XX party congress did introduce some political change, but no one had any idea what to do with the economy anymore, because they unironically believed it was fine to run it like that

2018-11-16 14:27:28 UTC [Subverse #general]  

And of course, with every decade, planning got less and less effective, because it never adapted to the changing tech and other realities

2018-11-16 14:27:39 UTC [Subverse #general]  

It has no reason to in a planned economy

2018-11-16 14:28:44 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Speaking of communists and modern day ones as well, did you know that at some point genetics were off-limits in the USSR as not fit to the ideology?

2018-11-16 14:29:39 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Kinda reminiscent of what's happening these days in the West, don't you think?

2018-11-16 14:29:53 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Yep

2018-11-16 14:30:23 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Cybernetics were even called, and I'm almost quoting here, "a colonial belief"

2018-11-16 14:30:41 UTC [Subverse #general]  

(Despite there being ongoing research in closed-off facilities)

2018-11-16 14:31:01 UTC [Subverse #general]  

You can easily see the similarities down to the language used

2018-11-16 14:32:06 UTC [Subverse #general]  

No idea how to call that field of science more accurately in English

2018-11-16 14:32:59 UTC [Subverse #general]  

The point is, compare that to the calls for "decolonisation of X science"

2018-11-16 14:33:34 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Thanks

2018-11-16 14:34:17 UTC [Subverse #general]  

It only came up as an issue in the media. Real research was going on, but without public knowledge

2018-11-16 14:35:52 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Oof, that mobile internet

2018-11-16 14:37:22 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Oh, ideology was omnipresent back then, judging by accounts and newspapers

2018-11-16 14:39:04 UTC [Subverse #general]  

It's supposed to be a market, but sure, I get you

2018-11-16 14:40:58 UTC [Subverse #general]  

That's simply because they have to follow financial models or risk collapsing the whole country

2018-11-16 14:41:33 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Since there are bound to be shortages in goods should you just ignore economic theory

2018-11-16 14:41:46 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Anyways, specific areas of history aside, please don't let idiots taint science with ideology. We've tried that, and it worked like shit

2018-11-16 14:47:47 UTC [Subverse #general]  

What happens to the Irish border in case of a no-deal though?

2018-11-16 14:48:14 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Surely no one would opt for a hard border

2018-11-16 14:52:09 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Anime girls that try to pass for anime boys. Like a trap, but the other way around

2018-11-16 14:55:17 UTC [Subverse #fake-news]  

How can sex be real if our waifus ain't real ;_;

2018-11-16 15:16:37 UTC [Subverse #general]  

>learning English through advanced journalism
Ah, so that's how the Verge got that computer specialist

2018-11-16 15:25:21 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Shitposting or dank memes :^)

2018-11-16 15:28:39 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Yeah, midway joiners are like that. Had a few come into our class from cities way deep in Siberia after 3.5 years of physics, and their mileage varied a lot

2018-11-16 15:29:27 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Two dropped out, one became a big figure on the student council, one actually opened his own business a year in on top of near perfect studying

2018-11-16 17:54:34 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Nice

2018-11-17 14:35:12 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

`in fact, we could even tell it's abnormal if 90% of dogs were born with three legs`
That's the definition of normal though, granted it happens for long enough

2018-11-17 15:47:32 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Keyword: started. If it was happening for long enough, as I specified, it would be perceived as normal.

2018-11-17 15:47:58 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Here's a hot take: internet wasn't normal a couple of decades ago

2018-11-17 15:48:30 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Norms can be bent. Give SJWs enough time, and your grandkids will take them as normal

2018-11-17 18:20:22 UTC [Subverse #general]  

@Mimi I mean, if it offends them so much they're literally shaking right now, sure

2018-11-17 18:22:13 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Coming from a country that's likely suffered most from the communists (in absolute numbers), can't really see the comparison

2018-11-17 18:24:40 UTC [Subverse #general]  

@Misomania No shit, the entirety of USSR had all of these things

2018-11-17 18:27:05 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Eh, I'd say one managed most of its dirt inside the country, while the other was focused on "cleansing" things outside of their own borders. That's about sums up the difference

2018-11-17 18:27:17 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Also, I'd appreciate a link @Misomania

2018-11-17 18:29:14 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Oh, Katyn, yeah. That happened all right

2018-11-17 18:30:07 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Also, pre-1941 soviets didn't exactly liberate anything from the Reich, if we're being entirely correct

2018-11-17 18:33:06 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Oh come on, didn't Hollywood tell you Japan wouldn't have surrendered without the USA?

2018-11-17 18:35:33 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Okay, this

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