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2018-12-22 13:39:02 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  
2018-12-22 14:24:43 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Just got done reading quite a bit to gather up just whats going on with the Carl Benjamin episode, was rather uninformed about a lot of the history up until now. Is this guy honstly defendable for you guys? It seems like hes taken the career path of an aggitator, which is fine, but you have to do so expecting to take a few punches, sometimes deserved

2018-12-22 14:26:22 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

However I would predict that he would respond that hes not an "agitator" , but maybe I am misjudging him on that.

2018-12-22 14:29:58 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Gonna go ahead and solicite some responses from anyone of different opinion on the matter here, lol, it sounds like Tim has a defensive position on the whole thing

2018-12-22 15:05:06 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

the dude definitly has the marks of an agitator, ya know, rabble-rouser.

2018-12-22 15:15:09 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi (ISIS Caliphate) just makes phone calls. He releases the occasional recorded appearance, if were lucky. An individuals declarations and diffusion can lead some people to assign a target to you. Obviously Al-baghdadi for arguably good reason.

2018-12-22 15:26:47 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Did this guy suggest that Heather Heyer (Charlottesville) died of a heart attack , instead of being hit by a car?

2018-12-22 15:27:28 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Carl Benjamin, that is

2018-12-22 15:57:22 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Is it ppossible to communicate quickly with Tim in discord? I just wanted to request him to cover a free speech topic sometie

2018-12-22 15:57:57 UTC [Subverse #general]  

FM on the twitter ?

2018-12-22 15:58:04 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Dm*

2018-12-22 15:58:14 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Shucks!

2018-12-22 15:59:08 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I think itd be interesting to discuss the Kurt Eichenwald incident in free speech over social media context

2018-12-22 15:59:57 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Lol me too

2018-12-22 16:00:41 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Eichenwald , at newsweek, was sent gif over Twitter to trigger his epillepsy

2018-12-22 16:01:05 UTC [Subverse #general]  

He passed out and hurt his eye, the sender knew of his eppilepsy

2018-12-22 16:01:30 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Long story short they charged the sender and he got like 10 years

2018-12-22 16:02:19 UTC [Subverse #general]  
2018-12-22 16:03:15 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Whaaaa

2018-12-22 16:03:41 UTC [Subverse #general]  

On the co next of free speech on social media ?

2018-12-22 16:04:05 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Context*

2018-12-22 16:04:26 UTC [Subverse #general]  

That's the rub

2018-12-22 16:05:40 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Hmm not entirely invalid point graylan, but, blacklisting gifs could certainly be bypassed in a targeted effort

2018-12-22 16:06:03 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Yeah, on browser, or OS globally

2018-12-22 16:06:54 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Encoding url , obfuscating file types or code could plausibly bypass image disabling

2018-12-22 16:07:18 UTC [Subverse #general]  

But, some ppl woold say its merely communication

2018-12-22 16:08:15 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Dont think I follow the steem reference

2018-12-22 16:08:24 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Steam? The gaming platform ?

2018-12-22 16:09:15 UTC [Subverse #general]  

As far as stealth delivery of blacklisted content, delivery can still he accomplished if one were motivated

2018-12-22 16:10:02 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I disagree. Some.of the penalties being seen on twitter etc. Are attacks

2018-12-22 16:10:47 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Not targeting epileptic conditions, , but intent to disrupt or otherwise bludgeon another user through communications

2018-12-22 16:11:14 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Sure. Discord has bouts

2018-12-22 16:11:18 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Bots

2018-12-22 16:11:26 UTC [Subverse #general]  

They can be usefel

2018-12-22 16:12:16 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Dont kn now any coke lords

2018-12-22 16:12:33 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Ohdude, massive ,

2018-12-22 16:13:48 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I would assume reception about a blockchain concept is rather positive, yes?

2018-12-22 16:21:06 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Uh, @A Haunted Army, triggered the fake news allegation there?

2018-12-22 16:22:12 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

And I asked, inquired, posited an inquiry, about the incident...

2018-12-22 16:22:17 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

the Heather hayer thing

2018-12-22 16:23:37 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Dude theres like, thousands of articles, first you couldn't consume all of them to conclude that, you could make a ballpark but "if not all" is impossible, but also, it seems impossible that so many could be sp misrepresentational

2018-12-22 16:25:02 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

That newsbuster article that was submitted earlier has the headline that Patreon changed their rules...I ask again, has there been a terms of service update on their behalf? Because that article gives a distorted representation of the events its covering

2018-12-22 16:25:26 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

None of them?

2018-12-22 16:25:30 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

How could you even know that?

2018-12-22 16:26:15 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

does Tim watch his content?

2018-12-22 16:26:55 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Sure, it'd help, the more the better

2018-12-22 16:28:33 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

However, being fan driven subscriber and being a discovery driven consumer can both yield healthy understanindg

2018-12-22 16:29:30 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

But both may be subject to blindness from bias or knowing intent to enage the topic without full consideration

2018-12-22 16:33:04 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Come on @A Haunted Army the headline should matter

2018-12-22 16:33:09 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

dont let them off the hook that easy

2018-12-22 16:33:38 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

wha?

2018-12-22 16:36:02 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

But the adience is larger than just you, and a lot of readers begin forming opinions , and its byeond you and I for editorial integrity in any publisher, but, you do form your own conclusions about whos right and whos wrong

2018-12-22 16:36:35 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Because you're inaccurate

2018-12-22 16:37:22 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

And selectively excluding some information as cotrect or not, that others do not (newsbuster article)

2018-12-22 16:40:43 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

No you should

2018-12-22 16:41:58 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

clickbait

2018-12-22 16:42:00 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

heard of it?

2018-12-22 16:42:11 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

what is that?

2018-12-22 16:42:22 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Yes, and the article is about that

2018-12-22 16:43:32 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

The thrust of position is this

I am advocating for you to weigh a writer and their editors headline authoring decisions along with the body

2018-12-22 16:43:49 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

as well as you're , from what I have fathered, incorrect about his statements around heather hayer

2018-12-22 16:43:53 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

gahtered*

2018-12-22 16:44:39 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

A Haunted ArmyToday at 10:34 AM
i'm saying i don't care if headlines are innacurate as long as the information in said aritcle is accurate.

2018-12-22 16:45:23 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

That was the statement I took as discarding the relevence of an rticles title

2018-12-22 16:46:07 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

In the newsbuster case, the information didn't check out

2018-12-22 16:46:41 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Lol bro either way, im not going to allege false advertising, but clickbait was well described by Beeman just a sec ago

2018-12-22 16:47:21 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

If its an ad or a description, it serves to capture the fundamental subject matter at the least, it matters

2018-12-22 16:47:49 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Im aware, Beeman,

2018-12-22 16:48:05 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Umm, well lets get back on topic

2018-12-22 16:48:38 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Which was Carl Benjamin episode

2018-12-22 16:50:02 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Sure

2018-12-22 16:50:35 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

I just got introduced to to this incident last night

2018-12-22 16:50:44 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Ive known who Sargon is, saw him on Rubin etc.

2018-12-22 16:50:58 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

but didn't know he got canned off Patreon til yesterday

2018-12-22 16:51:36 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Pateron, or VidCon, as well, ya'll brought that up here and I had to look it up, I hadnt even ehard of her before

2018-12-22 16:53:55 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

See that seems to be a common conclusion, that Patreon has unfairly targeted Sargon beause of his personal identity, and I dont think I find that to hold up to scrtinyu 100%

2018-12-22 16:55:46 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

I stated earlier Sargon bears some of the traits of an agitator, which again, I dont object to, but that role will likely encounter some counter-strikes

2018-12-22 16:56:54 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

We'll agree that the standards should be held across the board, so if Sargon has found to e in violation, others who are comparable should as well

2018-12-22 16:57:10 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Agitators as well as any libaility

2018-12-22 16:59:35 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

A rabble rouser

2018-12-22 17:00:06 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Tactics that are intended to in principle create disruption

2018-12-22 17:00:30 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

often casting resoltuion into second class considerations

2018-12-22 17:00:39 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

No no no

2018-12-22 17:00:42 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

like i said earlier

2018-12-22 17:00:49 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

I dont mind him being an agitator

2018-12-22 17:00:53 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

i think we need them

2018-12-22 17:00:53 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

but

2018-12-22 17:01:29 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

you cant expect to not encounter strikes in return from your, uh, agtiatees

2018-12-22 17:01:34 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Ah woops sorry

2018-12-22 17:02:15 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Beeman, in cases yes we can reach certainties about intent

2018-12-22 17:02:43 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

From what I've gatehred, and seems to beinstrumental, the VidCon case

2018-12-22 17:04:36 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

His angle of approach is often read as not pursuing clarity or dialogue, but to create controversy to stir up a response from the audience, which I would argue is a valid currency (subscribers, fans)

2018-12-22 17:04:51 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

What would you say his stated intent was>

2018-12-22 17:04:52 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

?

2018-12-22 17:05:49 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Hmm, seems like a unproductive position on political exchanges 4AM

2018-12-22 17:07:13 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Ok well here is where I find that to be, like, entirely incorrect Beeman

2018-12-22 17:07:19 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Let me know if I am missing some detials

2018-12-22 17:07:29 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

but Forveer Computing, lemme look up his name

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