> I think it's a bit of a shame to limit the serious debate to abortion. What about something of a similar caliber, like the death penalty?
@Wolfgang Amadeus Yurmom's art they are not of a similar caliber. Your view on abortion tells alot about what you take for a primary principle in politics

And its basis

> A for A liberal cannot give a concise answer in an abortion debate
@anti simp if the standard is a rational one meaning derived from reality neither can the “conservatives”

> Basis?
@Wolfgang Amadeus Yurmom's art ba·sis
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the underlying support or foundation for an idea, argument, or process.

> *another question; it's as in it is, or its as in of it?*
@Wolfgang Amadeus Yurmom's art i mean it is a strong indicator of the foundations of someones primary political principles

Put another way what someone sees as their focus for organized society .

> @GussTR I literally sent you two verses from the Bible which say he died for our sins
@justkaus what i find to be an illuminating take on the symbology of the “sacrifice”

Christ, in terms of the Christian philosophy, is the human ideal. He personifies that which men should strive to emulate. Yet, according to the Christian mythology, he died on the cross not for his own sins but for the sins of the nonideal people. In other words, a man of perfect virtue was sacrificed for men who are vicious and who are expected or supposed to accept that sacrifice. If I were a Christian, nothing could make me more indignant than that: the notion of sacrificing the ideal to the nonideal, or virtue to vice. And it is in the name of that symbol that men are asked to sacrifice themselves for their inferiors. That is precisely how the symbolism is used.

Playboy Interview: Ayn Rand
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