> @redeeming rectum or they feel like the trump camp is gonna cheat lmao
@NumberOneSilver both of them

every party is known for gerrymandering in power

and being corrupt

> @Hippity Hoppity yeah I don’t trust either
@NumberOneSilver shouldn't trust any party

> And while we are at it, the government
@NumberOneSilver yeah i agree

> Anarchy time is the best time
@NumberOneSilver why do you have a max stirner pfp

> @GussTR you said we sin because of control. Why did Adam and Eve sin?
@justkaus they didnt

adam made an accident

and oopsie doopsie

and god punished him

> Why not?
@NumberOneSilver wasnt he a socialist or something

a mockery of ethics i must say

> Wasn't the story this. God warned them not to eat, yet they did?
@justkaus actually but he didnt know the extent

he was just making an example out of adam

> And his punishment was very severe
@NumberOneSilver to be fair god did sniff up his nostrils

> @Hippity Hoppity if you put the actually in front. That still makes it a crime no?
@justkaus not a crime god just wanted to make an example out of adam to warn humans to obey him

> @Hippity Hoppity would you call it a sin? Yes/no
@justkaus god doesnt

> @Hippity Hoppity hmmm. Would you?
@justkaus no

he ate an apple

> @Hippity Hoppity I see. Well my original point was that control isint the root cause of sin
@justkaus i don't care about your point i care about what you said

> @Hippity Hoppity well. If God thinks it's sin. I will think it's sin too
@justkaus but god doesnt think it is a sin

thats what it says in my ancient text

> @Hippity Hoppity you literally said the opposite
@justkaus no you asked if I considered it a sin and i said god doesn't consider it a sin

> @NumberOneSilver depends
@justkaus he didn't make exceptions Adam was merely ignorant

which in my religion isn't considered sin

> @Hippity Hoppity I’m talking about later on in the Bible
@NumberOneSilver i do not believe in the bible

i dont understand why i had to wait 3 million years for a homeless dude in robes to tell me eye for an eye and tooth for a tooth

> @Hippity Hoppity oh I read that wrong. Wait, it's called a sin everywhere. On what basis you think God will publish someone for something that isint a sin. Even if he was making a example. He is god! He has better ways to do that. Why torture your own?
@justkaus then why does my text say otherwise

> @Hippity Hoppity what text. You say it wasn't a sin but you also agree he was punished
@justkaus he was made an example of

> @Hippity Hoppity and god couldn't find a better way?
@justkaus god put his foot down

> @Hippity Hoppity for something that wasn't even a sin?
@justkaus it is god

> I mean, I’m a Satanist, so I’m in the clear regardless. 😎
@NumberOneSilver that is a dead religion all the Satanists do nowadays is whine about laws that benefit religious people

> @Hippity Hoppity hehe.... That is true. But I don't agree with your narrative
@justkaus it is what it is

kill one man and it is a tragedy kill 10 million and your tax revenue falls sharply for some reason

> @Hippity Hoppity 👍. That's better than Stalin's version. Thanks, I will use this from now
@justkaus cool

it isnt even mine

> So you are a Sunni Muslim?
@justkaus yes

also adam wasnt even punished

thinking of it

> What do you think about the Karbala incident? You think Abu bakar did the wrong thing?
@justkaus was abu bakar even involved?

he was dead

> @Hippity Hoppity not in Karbala. I should have phrased it better. Well I have a lot of questions. Let's start from. Do you think Ali should have been the first caliph and Muhammad saheb wanted him to be the first caliph?
@justkaus you are asking a Sunni if ali should've been the first caliph

i feel answering is redundant

> Hmmm ok. Do you think what happened at Karbala was correct?
@justkaus what in Karbala specifically

> @Hippity Hoppity is a matter of history. Not faith
@justkaus i was not mentioning faith but philosophy

> @Hippity Hoppity the killing of Hussain, Fatima and the prophets family
@justkaus incorrect

you asked if it was correct

but i find your phrasing weird because i am not sure the prophets family where specifically killed

i think that killing a Sahabah is wrong

> Yes but where did this problem start?
@justkaus Oh so you are asking who is to blame

Muawiyah

obviously

Muawiyah was the start

so it is his fault

> I mean, I am an egoist, but there is plenty I disagree with Stirner on.
@NumberOneSilver you are a egoist

> @Hippity Hoppity yes I agree. Then why do you say Ali shouldn't have been the caliph? And what was the solution according to you
@justkaus ?

i said he shouldn't be caliph because

i dont like nepetism

> But you said why I am asking a Sunni this question
@justkaus because the sunni shia split

> @Hippity Hoppity I don't pick Ali's name randomly. Shias believe Muhammad saheb specifically wanted him to be
@justkaus i know

> @Hippity Hoppity but then why bring nepotism now?
@justkaus because besides the shias belief

there is no reason besides nepotism

> And so you think the claim is true or not that Muhammad saheb wanted Ali to be the caliph?
@justkaus false

> So why did the apostasy wars happen
@justkaus why all the wars happened

defensive or breaking of a treaty

> @Hippity Hoppity that's a red herring man. Those wars were specifically about succession
@justkaus oh so you are asking if the tribes started it

> Ye, and there was a clear reason behind them also
@justkaus Tulayha was a commande

r

it would be clear if he was the instigator

> Ok. Final question
@justkaus wut m8

> Where do you think Islamic terrorism originates from?
@justkaus the cold war and pan arabism

who was Reagan selling those weapons to

> @Hippity Hoppity and it has nothing to do with Karbala, apostasy wars?
@justkaus isis did come from saudi

but not al qaida

> Comes from Sunni roots
@justkaus hmm

i was referring to you referencing the split between sunni and shia

> Comes from Sunni roots
@justkaus and?

> @Hippity Hoppity well. Just wanted to see what Muslims think is the main cause of terrorism
@justkaus well how is salafism the cause of terrorism

> @justkaus not terrorism. Al Qaeda
@justkaus well then how is al qaeda the cause of salafism

then why did you say it was in its roots

> I said Sunni Islam is root of salafism
@justkaus isnt it the other way round

> Bruh Sunni Islam is as old as the prophets death
@justkaus i had my metaphors twisted

i mean idioms twisted

wait i had my figurative language twisted

twist

so do you have any qualms on islam

name one

> Imo the Shia perspective is the correct one
@justkaus why

> And terrorism has its roots with Abu bakar
@justkaus stop

stop it

how

> I wonder why he married aiesha...
@justkaus hey it was 1500 years ago

bruh do you have a grudge on abu bakr

why is abu bakar bad

i said name one reason

> @Hippity Hoppity why didn't he let Ali be a caliph. Why did the tribes revolt?..
@justkaus bruh abu bakar was the nicest dude

> @Hippity Hoppity based on what? In fact this is what saved him probably. I don't know how Muhammad didn't see through him....
@justkaus he helped everyone

> And then screwed over everyone.
@justkaus just stop

please

> Why kill the tribes
@justkaus they where revolting also one of the 3 dudes they followed fought against muhammed in almost every war