Hippity Hoppity
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> @redeeming rectum or they feel like the trump camp is gonna cheat lmao
@NumberOneSilver both of them
every party is known for gerrymandering in power
and being corrupt
> @Hippity Hoppity yeah I donโt trust either
@NumberOneSilver shouldn't trust any party
> And while we are at it, the government
@NumberOneSilver yeah i agree
> Anarchy time is the best time
@NumberOneSilver why do you have a max stirner pfp
adam made an accident
and oopsie doopsie
and god punished him
> Why not?
@NumberOneSilver wasnt he a socialist or something
a mockery of ethics i must say
> Wasn't the story this. God warned them not to eat, yet they did?
@justkaus actually but he didnt know the extent
he was just making an example out of adam
> And his punishment was very severe
@NumberOneSilver to be fair god did sniff up his nostrils
> @Hippity Hoppity if you put the actually in front. That still makes it a crime no?
@justkaus not a crime god just wanted to make an example out of adam to warn humans to obey him
> @Hippity Hoppity would you call it a sin? Yes/no
@justkaus god doesnt
> @Hippity Hoppity hmmm. Would you?
@justkaus no
he ate an apple
> @Hippity Hoppity I see. Well my original point was that control isint the root cause of sin
@justkaus i don't care about your point i care about what you said
> @Hippity Hoppity well. If God thinks it's sin. I will think it's sin too
@justkaus but god doesnt think it is a sin
thats what it says in my ancient text
> @Hippity Hoppity you literally said the opposite
@justkaus no you asked if I considered it a sin and i said god doesn't consider it a sin
> @NumberOneSilver depends
@justkaus he didn't make exceptions Adam was merely ignorant
which in my religion isn't considered sin
> @Hippity Hoppity Iโm talking about later on in the Bible
@NumberOneSilver i do not believe in the bible
i dont understand why i had to wait 3 million years for a homeless dude in robes to tell me eye for an eye and tooth for a tooth
> @Hippity Hoppity oh I read that wrong. Wait, it's called a sin everywhere. On what basis you think God will publish someone for something that isint a sin. Even if he was making a example. He is god! He has better ways to do that. Why torture your own?
@justkaus then why does my text say otherwise
> @Hippity Hoppity what text. You say it wasn't a sin but you also agree he was punished
@justkaus he was made an example of
> @Hippity Hoppity and god couldn't find a better way?
@justkaus god put his foot down
> @Hippity Hoppity for something that wasn't even a sin?
@justkaus it is god
> I mean, Iโm a Satanist, so Iโm in the clear regardless. ๐
@NumberOneSilver that is a dead religion all the Satanists do nowadays is whine about laws that benefit religious people
> @Hippity Hoppity hehe.... That is true. But I don't agree with your narrative
@justkaus it is what it is
kill one man and it is a tragedy kill 10 million and your tax revenue falls sharply for some reason
> @Hippity Hoppity ๐. That's better than Stalin's version. Thanks, I will use this from now
@justkaus cool
it isnt even mine
> So you are a Sunni Muslim?
@justkaus yes
also adam wasnt even punished
thinking of it
> What do you think about the Karbala incident? You think Abu bakar did the wrong thing?
@justkaus was abu bakar even involved?
he was dead
> @Hippity Hoppity not in Karbala. I should have phrased it better. Well I have a lot of questions. Let's start from. Do you think Ali should have been the first caliph and Muhammad saheb wanted him to be the first caliph?
@justkaus you are asking a Sunni if ali should've been the first caliph
i feel answering is redundant
> Hmmm ok. Do you think what happened at Karbala was correct?
@justkaus what in Karbala specifically
> @Hippity Hoppity is a matter of history. Not faith
@justkaus i was not mentioning faith but philosophy
> @Hippity Hoppity the killing of Hussain, Fatima and the prophets family
@justkaus incorrect
you asked if it was correct
but i find your phrasing weird because i am not sure the prophets family where specifically killed
i think that killing a Sahabah is wrong
> Yes but where did this problem start?
@justkaus Oh so you are asking who is to blame
Muawiyah
obviously
Muawiyah was the start
so it is his fault
> I mean, I am an egoist, but there is plenty I disagree with Stirner on.
@NumberOneSilver you are a egoist
> @Hippity Hoppity yes I agree. Then why do you say Ali shouldn't have been the caliph? And what was the solution according to you
@justkaus ?
i said he shouldn't be caliph because
i dont like nepetism
> But you said why I am asking a Sunni this question
@justkaus because the sunni shia split
> @Hippity Hoppity I don't pick Ali's name randomly. Shias believe Muhammad saheb specifically wanted him to be
@justkaus i know
> @Hippity Hoppity but then why bring nepotism now?
@justkaus because besides the shias belief
there is no reason besides nepotism
> And so you think the claim is true or not that Muhammad saheb wanted Ali to be the caliph?
@justkaus false
> So why did the apostasy wars happen
@justkaus why all the wars happened
defensive or breaking of a treaty
> @Hippity Hoppity that's a red herring man. Those wars were specifically about succession
@justkaus oh so you are asking if the tribes started it
> Ye, and there was a clear reason behind them also
@justkaus Tulayha was a commande
r
it would be clear if he was the instigator
> Ok. Final question
@justkaus wut m8
> Where do you think Islamic terrorism originates from?
@justkaus the cold war and pan arabism
who was Reagan selling those weapons to
> @Hippity Hoppity and it has nothing to do with Karbala, apostasy wars?
@justkaus isis did come from saudi
but not al qaida
> Comes from Sunni roots
@justkaus hmm
i was referring to you referencing the split between sunni and shia
> Comes from Sunni roots
@justkaus and?
> @Hippity Hoppity well. Just wanted to see what Muslims think is the main cause of terrorism
@justkaus well how is salafism the cause of terrorism
then why did you say it was in its roots
> I said Sunni Islam is root of salafism
@justkaus isnt it the other way round
> Bruh Sunni Islam is as old as the prophets death
@justkaus i had my metaphors twisted
i mean idioms twisted
wait i had my figurative language twisted
twist
so do you have any qualms on islam
name one
> Imo the Shia perspective is the correct one
@justkaus why
> And terrorism has its roots with Abu bakar
@justkaus stop
stop it
how
> I wonder why he married aiesha...
@justkaus hey it was 1500 years ago
bruh do you have a grudge on abu bakr
why is abu bakar bad
i said name one reason
> @Hippity Hoppity why didn't he let Ali be a caliph. Why did the tribes revolt?..
@justkaus bruh abu bakar was the nicest dude
> @Hippity Hoppity based on what? In fact this is what saved him probably. I don't know how Muhammad didn't see through him....
@justkaus he helped everyone
> And then screwed over everyone.
@justkaus just stop
please
> Why kill the tribes
@justkaus they where revolting also one of the 3 dudes they followed fought against muhammed in almost every war
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