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2018-09-12 13:22:39 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Will Hungary protest and take up arms if their voting rights are taken away?

2018-09-12 13:22:51 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I think we're gonna see history

2018-09-12 13:23:31 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Wait it happened already?

2018-09-12 13:23:51 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Their voting rights have been taken away?

2018-09-12 13:24:12 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Jesus Christ

2018-09-12 13:24:27 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Catalonia 2.0

2018-09-12 13:25:14 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Didn't they pass a "stop soros" bill?

2018-09-12 13:25:39 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Or was that Poland?

2018-09-12 13:27:06 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Hungary may go full on far right

2018-09-12 14:26:35 UTC [Subverse #general]  

@DOGASS John Locke's "Two Treaties of Government and a Letter Concerning Toleration" and "An Essay Concerning Human Understanding".

2018-09-12 14:27:01 UTC [Subverse #general]  

The Essay is Locke's masterpiece

2018-09-12 14:29:51 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Oh, also, check out Locke: Epistemology and Ontology by Michael Ayers, for an introduction to his philosophy of Empirisicm, watch this- "
https://youtu.be/WJzQF7eknKA

2018-09-13 00:50:00 UTC [Subverse #general]  

If the left goes down the identitarian route, the right wing may also do the same

2018-09-13 00:50:30 UTC [Subverse #general]  

But it will be race on one hand, and nationality on the other

2018-09-13 00:52:17 UTC [Subverse #general]  

@Beemann He literally despises conservatism

2018-09-13 00:52:51 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I guess that's why he's "alt" right

2018-09-13 00:53:25 UTC [Subverse #general]  

He adopted the racial obsession of the far right

2018-09-13 00:53:41 UTC [Subverse #general]  

And socialism from the far left

2018-09-13 00:54:10 UTC [Subverse #general]  

And I believe he wants an arostocracy?

2018-09-13 00:54:21 UTC [Subverse #general]  

With a king?

2018-09-13 00:54:35 UTC [Subverse #general]  

And that's far right as well

2018-09-13 00:55:02 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Like that bald hyper capitalist monarchist polish dude

2018-09-13 00:55:12 UTC [Subverse #general]  

With a bowtie

2018-09-13 00:56:29 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I don't think the left right divide is entirely useless, its just that america has a different version,

2018-09-13 00:57:42 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Personally, I see it as -
Communism/Marxism far left.
Monarchism/Theocracy far right

2018-09-13 00:59:02 UTC [Subverse #general]  

It helps in categorizing people. Especially in a two party state

2018-09-13 00:59:14 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Europ isn't that way

2018-09-13 00:59:23 UTC [Subverse #general]  

But

2018-09-13 00:59:41 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Larger countries like India or America are

2018-09-13 01:00:03 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Left/right isn't an ideology.

2018-09-13 01:00:28 UTC [Subverse #general]  

It's a system of values compiled through a spectrum

2018-09-13 01:01:02 UTC [Subverse #general]  

So a right wing party is pro traditionalism, constitutionalism, etc

2018-09-13 01:01:42 UTC [Subverse #general]  

A left wing party would be pro secularism, social programs, etc

2018-09-13 01:02:25 UTC [Subverse #general]  

You can adopt a wide variety of ideologies under one banner without being cornered

2018-09-13 01:03:18 UTC [Subverse #general]  

And then, the people in the party can say "I'm a constitutionalist", or " I'm a socialist"

2018-09-13 01:04:09 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Aren't alt right people national socialists?

2018-09-13 01:04:29 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Not all, but altleast the ethnostatists

2018-09-13 01:04:51 UTC [Subverse #general]  

The alt right isn't a good example here

2018-09-13 01:05:39 UTC [Subverse #general]  

They didn't start off this way. A bunch of nazis took over the actual alt right.

2018-09-13 01:06:15 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Radical centrists

2018-09-13 01:06:30 UTC [Subverse #general]  

The nazis are radical centrists.

2018-09-13 01:06:48 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Monarchy

2018-09-13 01:07:01 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Closed borders

2018-09-13 01:07:53 UTC [Subverse #general]  

A hierarchical system based on tradition is definitely right.

2018-09-13 01:08:15 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Not really

2018-09-13 01:08:21 UTC [Subverse #general]  

It's family rule

2018-09-13 01:09:09 UTC [Subverse #general]  

And north Korea is a republic

2018-09-13 01:10:01 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Do ethnostatists seek to seize the means of production?

2018-09-13 01:10:15 UTC [Subverse #general]  

And give it to the state?

2018-09-13 01:10:32 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Then that's their far left views

2018-09-13 01:10:52 UTC [Subverse #general]  

So, they adopt the extreme views of both wings

2018-09-13 01:11:00 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Radical

2018-09-13 01:11:03 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Centrists

2018-09-13 01:11:54 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Or extreme authoritarian centrists

2018-09-13 01:12:58 UTC [Subverse #general]  

@Schedrevka "Extreme authoritarian centrists"?

2018-09-13 01:14:44 UTC [Subverse #general]  

@Schedrevka Thanks, I never knew

2018-09-13 01:38:44 UTC [Subverse #general]  

They use Rules for radicals perfectly

2018-09-13 01:38:55 UTC [Subverse #general]  

And the right just wants to take the high road

2018-09-13 01:39:58 UTC [Subverse #general]  

The right needs to boycott more

2018-09-13 01:47:01 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Rules for radicals is brilliant. I heard about Raheem Kassam, Tommy Robinson and a bunch of people deciding to adopt it

2018-09-13 01:47:27 UTC [Subverse #general]  

@pratel the guy who wrote them used these tactics for years before formulating them

2018-09-13 01:50:39 UTC [Subverse #general]  

You could join the Proud boys

2018-09-13 01:51:29 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Maybe the right should consider appealing to the social liberals

2018-09-13 01:52:06 UTC [Subverse #general]  

By campaigning against police brutality, Blockbusting etc

2018-09-13 01:52:25 UTC [Subverse #general]  

In India, the right appealed to the liberals

2018-09-13 01:52:46 UTC [Subverse #general]  

So much that gay sex was legalised by the right wing party

2018-09-13 01:53:15 UTC [Subverse #general]  

So the communists are now completely alone

2018-09-13 01:54:10 UTC [Subverse #general]  

No, no, that's not what I mean

2018-09-13 01:54:53 UTC [Subverse #general]  

@pratel if you are fundamentally opposed to identitarians, you don't need to appeal to them. But the conservatives arent opposed to social liberals

2018-09-13 01:55:45 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Like, as a right winger, you have a lot in common with Tim pool and Sargon

2018-09-13 02:14:57 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Dogwhistle is the bane of conversation

2018-09-13 02:15:34 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Now an ok hand sign means I'm a racist

2018-09-13 02:16:30 UTC [Subverse #bot-commands]  

!rank

2018-09-13 02:24:25 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I'll get the diesel!

2018-09-13 02:31:21 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I hear aiming for the heads works pretty well

2018-09-13 02:33:05 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Oh no I don't mean *literal* heads

2018-09-13 02:33:42 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I mean the people who indoctrinate students

2018-09-13 02:34:14 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Make students protest their professors

2018-09-13 02:34:34 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Question them, show different opinions

2018-09-13 02:52:32 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Gab has way too much reputation of being full of far right people

2018-09-13 02:52:38 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Minds is better

2018-09-13 02:53:29 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Minds isn't that alt right

2018-09-13 02:53:40 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I haven't seen any alt right people there

2018-09-13 02:54:03 UTC [Subverse #general]  

And you can actually have good conversation

2018-09-13 02:54:20 UTC [Subverse #general]  

In more than 140 characters

2018-09-13 03:45:37 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I'm a plain old liberal

2018-09-13 03:46:11 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Damn kids and their fancy political terms

2018-09-13 08:10:12 UTC [Subverse #general]  

@Timcast I don't know about your opinions on circumcision, but you could make a timcast vid on this https://www.reuters.com/article/us-aids-circumcision/circumcision-does-not-affect-hiv-in-u-s-men-study-idUSN0345545120071204

2018-09-13 15:12:29 UTC [Subverse #general]  

@Atkins I guess it's normal for a social media company, or one that is so large that the politics of its employees may cause problems within it.

2018-09-13 15:12:37 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Google is both

2018-09-13 15:13:46 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I won't be surprised if Twitter has daily 2 minute hate breaks where everyone screams at trump

2018-09-13 15:14:42 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I wonder if the parties have connections or have invested in Google

2018-09-13 15:14:59 UTC [Subverse #general]  

This is probably why they asked that

2018-09-13 15:16:01 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Google could have been Invested in by Clinton or the party to make her win. The fact that they failed to do so, means that they have to understand why

2018-09-13 15:16:25 UTC [Subverse #general]  

This is just a conspiracy theory so far though, I don't have proof

2018-09-13 15:16:58 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Doubt it

2018-09-13 15:17:03 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Google is a private company

2018-09-13 15:17:08 UTC [Subverse #general]  

They can do what they want

2018-09-13 15:17:21 UTC [Subverse #general]  

And that's the downside of a free market, kids!

2018-09-13 15:17:44 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Well, depends on the tamper

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