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Well the problem is it's debatable how much of the problems we have right now are being caused or exacerbated by climate change and to what extent

Like for example you could argue that global warming has already depleted some resources and created scarcities that will incite conflicts but you can't prove exactly how much better it would be without that

but climate change is causing resource scarcity

Yes it is

Take the abnormal dryness that led to wildfires in california for example

depleting the forests and the resources in that area

It was exacerbated by climate conditions

Take the fish that are dying up in the north due to sub-optimal water temperature

but the fires are getting worse

Previous fires tended not to be as bad

but in the past there have been times where there was no forest management

Those are powered by groundwater which is normally inaccessible to the forests

and then the water is recycled after they use it anyway

Yes, it evaporates and goes back into rain

rain clouds tend to migrate anyway

Just because the water is going there doesn't mean it won't end up somewhere else

but climate change is making it worse

or it's a legitimate issue that's hurting them

How is it not?

we already discussed in <#523834972126052352> how heat has a positive correlation with crime up to a certain point

The US already has a very high incarcerated population due to lobbying from private prisons

We have the highest per capita incarceration rate

and the largest prison population in the world

There are other countries that don't use the death penalty a lot either

It makes no sense to say that the sole reason for our high incarceration rate is because we don't do executions often

No?

africa has a larger amount of blacks

We have the largest prison population per capita out of all nations, not just the west

How does being in the west mean that having blacks translates into higher prison population but it doesn't apply to countries with a high black population outside of the west?

@Pelth Give me a citation for all that stuff you said

about rehabilitation

@Pelth I need to see data

@Solid Snake Plissken There are countries outside of the west that are capable of enforcing their laws

Okay, so in other words you refuse to prove your claims?

When did I say that they're safer?

By that logic being more developed in non-western countries should correlate with crime rates

@Solid Snake Plissken No, I didn't

@Pelth You know what developed means

@Pelth No, because you're arguing that other countries have huge crime rates but they appear to have lower crime rates because law enforcement is bad since they're not developed

Then reported crime rates should correlate with police efficiency in non-western countries

@Solid Snake Plissken Give me a citation on that

@Pelth

Lies

"in state or federal custody"

can you not read?

You said that it was consensus that blacks commit 50% of the crime

I'm going to assume you're trolling

That chart says it's less than 52%

Either you're too retarded to realize it or you're just lying to troll

either way you're not worth arguing with

"52% of all violent crime"- you just a few seconds ago

The chart they just posted in <#518779466512596992> disagrees with blacks committing 50% of violent crime

So you think that more of the crimes by whites are reported than the ones by blacks?

I'm not talking to you

I stopped talking to you when you abandoned your original point because you found it was wrong

No you can't

That's just a theory of yours. It's not an official estimate you've backed up with enough research to be certain

I already told you I'm not talking to you

gladly

Not like I have any reason to keep explaining why proof is necessary to people like yourselves who would prefer to make conjectures without enough information

It's obvious how your evidence isn't sufficient to back up everything you've said. Anyone who sees this convo can observe that

I don't believe that they educated you in your criminal justice class on this because if they did you would not make such stupid arguments

No, but that's not the point of contention of this debate

Your estimates are unsourced and you refuse to back them up so as far as I can see this conversation isn't going to go anywhere

Yes but he's arguing that blacks get away with crime more often @Deleted User with his estimates

@Gоd Twin studies literally do not control for socioeconomic factors. It's usually only economic ones

Yes, it's just a fallacious non sequitur to say that these twin studies disprove that environment may have a larger effect on IQ

@Katze Miaulitzer More specifically this man is arguing that somebody who said whites are inherently smarter than non-whites is not a white supremacist

@Sentient23 In practice white supremacism is also used to refer to whites being more intelligent than other races

Your definition is actually inaccurate for not including this

Yes, this is how the word is used

Do you want me to take a survey? because this is so obvious to everyone else in this convo

But that's the basis for a definition, common usage

No, stop making up strawmans

>idc what everyone else thinks

Well the thing is we don't know that it's fact because the statistics we have aren't enough to conclude whether it is or isn't

not with pelth

Just ignore him

I've already blocked him

What exactly do you mean by "extreme liberals"

What?

Why do you support trump?

@Pelth Check your facts before you call something a "total lie"

Yeah but turkey is a member of NATO

Yeah, if you work for the money and send it somewhere else then your impact is neutral because the person who got your labor is still here

@Puerto Rican Nelson I'm saying theoretically if their entire income went to remittances

@Puerto Rican Nelson No, I never said that

Is this man actually serious that he wants all illegal immigrants to die?

This man is a joke

@Katze Miaulitzer I think we should legalize the ones that haven't done bad stuff yet

Well they literally can't because we have quotas

Which also need to go

You in europe don't do as much stuff in the middle east that might make muslims mad

Which is why you're able to have more muslims

Yeah but our CBR isn't high enough to replace our population so we need the immigration in order to not end up like japan

If we remove the quotas then we could focus on just the immigrants who want to get in for the purpose of doing bad stuff

We could if we made the legal immigration process easier

^

If we made it possible for all the good people to come legally then we could exclude the illegals