I think the problem with Covington is he was too explicitly natsoc

not that it was wrong, it was just too much info too quickly for the normie

if we exude self confidence in white identity, and have an overall positive message, that'll go a long way

we don't need to get into the technicals of whether or not charging usury is valid

we just need to push the meme that "we're building a homeland for white people... a place where you can raise families and feel safe"

this is why most leftist communes fail

It depends on how far we want to go... maybe a newsletter, lol

holy crap how have I never heard of this forum before?

We need to be integrating more closely to True Cascadia

do they have an official discord?

http://www.truecascadia.com/

```Promote a White ethnic consciousness in the Pacific Northwest and prevent, as well as reverse, the increasingly discriminatory policies enacted in opposition to Whites in our own homelands.

Encourage traditionalism by investing in traditional family values, and stopping the degradation of White culture.

Regain our sovereignty and prevent foreign influence on our people.

Stop the continuation of non-White immigration into our communities and rebuild our sociocultural infrastructure.```

I think it's just a growing network of alt-right people in the area

@Orchid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfJGQ0n27vc

yeah there's a lot of stuff they go over

yes, a while ago when it first came out

that's how I found out about this movement of people wanting to do this

They're not too concerned with the government, it sounds like

they're very much "meta-political"

it seems as tho they're more interested in building community, rather than the particulars of policy or economics

that sounds larpy

whatever the case may be, the most important thing is we develop the cultural network

rather than iron out a constitution

build the skills, become self-reliant, move up to the PNW, and advocate for white identity

if there ever comes a time where we're going to have to sort out a new government, we'll deal work it out then

for now, none of that crap will matter if there are no people to govern

Tea is also a good choice.

I think it's going to take a monumental paradigm shift before we openly accept conquest as a legitimate means for acquiring land again

people are too cucked by universalist morality

but we need to keep pushing it

Libertarians always twist themselves into knots over the issue of land ownership

but it's simple

the land that is yours is the land you can defend, or that someone more powerful acknowledges is yours

Even animals understand the value of territory, and are willing to kill to acquire it

@Primo Muslims are a more primitive, and therefore vigorous culture

they're hungrier

The West is collapsing under the weight of it's own decadence

@Orchid I think it looks good 👍

When will we be deciding where to make the move? What are the criteria we're looking out for? I've done a ton of readind and research into all parts of the PNW, and the rest of the country. It all started years ago when I read Skousen's Strategic Relocation book.

I have a pretty good idea of the general parts of the country, their demographic trajectory, and their strategic advantages and disadvantages

Do you mean Eastern?

because Western is a no-go

seismic and population issues

yes there are bigger population centers, so it's easier to find work

but the politics of those areas is terrible

there are some places that are better suited outside of those cities, if you really need access to the economy there, but I advise Idaho or Montana

much friendlier politically and culturally

climate is also sunnier and swings to seasonal extremes more as you travel east, Finally when you hit the rockies, expect a slightly wetter climate, a little more snow, and up in the rockies by the continental divide (Columbia Falls, etc.) much more snow, shorter growing season, colder overall temperatures, etc.

the happy medium, to me, seams to be the Idaho panhandle, Benewah, Kootenai, and Bonner county

I would recommend the eastern areas of Washington and Orgeon, were it not for the governments there, but at the same time if you're looking for safety and good demographics, those places are excellent.

Coeur D'Alene has a population of about 50,000 and is close to Spokane, so it's not too isolated from the conveniences of civilization, Moscow further south is about half that and is a different ecology (high plains). We need to define our goals... do we want to "take over" a town? Or do we want to participate as a vocal minority in the politics?

Do we want to buy one big patch of land together and start a "commune" lol.... there was this "Citadel" project that kinda fell flat

I think it would be better if we just made a general push to move to a specific town and the surrounding areas, and focused on making that town /our place/

yeah I know what you mean

in that case I submit Coeur D'Alene or Sandpoint as my suggestion

Sandpoint has 8000 residents, and an older population than Coeur D'Alene

I have 4 kids, one of the big things for me is to find a place where there are other young families

Yes, there's enough to work with for personal gardening

as far as large scale farming I'm not so sure

check this map out: http://sil.uc.edu/webapps/socscape_usa/

it's got population and demographic stats mapped for the years 1990, 2000, and 2010, to give you an idea of where the white population is growing

yeah it's really useful

Potlatch is really, really low in population

and it might be too small for our people to find good work

that would be a good target if we wanted to take over completely

but if enough of our guys move out there and we get active politically, then yeah it could happen

but, again, the economic factor is limiting

so it's just something to think about

I think it would work best if we chose a decently sized city, and moved there or the surrounding lands

because for most people, it's a big deal to have access to good shopping and such

its true

I think there are places that strike a good balance

Maybe we can pick a specific small town next to one of these cities

like maybe a half hour or so away

so people could still commute if they want to

http://www.bestplaces.net/city/idaho/athol

something like that

```Race in Athol, Idaho
98.00% of people are white, 0.00% are black, 0.00% are asian, 0.00% are native american, and 0.00% claim 'Other'.```

bingo... found it!

this is our home.

lol

interesting choice

We gotta think about the economic opportunities if this thing is going to have any legs

we can grow food pretty much anywhere if we're in a good grow zone

this is good tho, it's good we disagree somewhat on this, and that we have different things we're looking for

it's going result in making a better decision in the end

those are important considerations

It does look like a place you could go full Varg

which is where I eventially want to end up

Yeah you know Varg Vikernes

he's always preaching to people to live a more traditional lifestyle away from collapsing civilization, have lots of kids, become self-reliant, etc.

Yeah that's why I feel like moving next to a small city (pop 25k -50k or so) would be best

because you would attract people who want to be part of the community, but want to be more isolated, they can just move further away

it can be lower

like 10k

Sandpoint is a good place for that

I think it's possible

it depends on how big you dream, how charismatic you are

it's not just about raw numbers

it's how effectively we participate