Imagine my shock when the creepy weirdo Scot is a homosexual
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derek_Mackay#Personal_life

This is how homosexuals reproduce

fuck technicalities, it's fucking disgusting

It was sustained communication (aka grooming) over an extended period

Again fuck your technicalities

I don't care whether the law technically views something as illegal. What's the essence of what's going on here?

Do you believe the law is the root of morality?

You can't apply those standards to a grooming situation.

Not everyone is a rational adult that weighs up the pros and cons of every interaction

legal technicalities again

It was sustained long-term communication

What happened there is, in essence, grooming. Whether the boy was above or below the specific age of 16 isn't relevant if you're coming at this from an objective standpoint.

He was a boy.

How many broken, potentially vulnerable 16 year old boys do you know?

That's still well before emotional maturity

Fine, if you have no family or neighbours or whatever, just think back to when you were that age

If you had an unstable environment and emotional problems how vulnerable might you be to a full grown man?

That's what makes it grooming!

It's not as though it was a 16yo and an 18yo shitposting together online

a 30yo is actually mature

This is just tactical nihilism

When a 42yo homosexual is engaged in sustained contact with some 16 year old what do you think is going on? Use your brain and stop relying on technicalities.

Yes! Go with your gut on this

I'm not asking you to be his jury

Just stop trying to escape making obvious conclusions based on this overrationalisation of something that's basically very simple.

Quite the contrary. Dumb laws are coming from a judicial class that engage in exactly this kind of pilpul.

Homosexual grooming.

It would also be fucking creepy if he were grooming a 16 year old girl

But homosexuals do this kind of thing a LOT

Most of their origin stories involve some older man had sexual contact with them when they were a teenager

It really annoys me when people put up these mental barriers that prevent them from seeing what the hell's going on.

Permit yourself to be disgusted, and to think he's a piece of shit.#

Then what was was the point in the pushback?

I never made any kind of legal case

Just expressing my disgust at homosexual teen grooming practices

Oh so you do think it's grooming then

Again I don't see what him having his 16th birthday has to do with it, he's still young

Yeah but I'm not talking about legality

I'm trying to cut through the legal classification of the relationship and get at the essence of what was really going on

Legally if he was 15 years and 364 days that might have been peadophilia but one day later it might have been acceptable

But does that actually change the **nature** of the interaction?

I'm not trying to deconstruct the law here lol

That's totally beside my point

My point is that this fits with a wider pattern of homosexual grooming

Yeah but we're talking about a 42yo homosexual here

Again I'm not making a legal case

I'm using the example to bring attention to a wider problem

Just ban sex outside of heterosexual marriage and make violation punishable by amputation

Yeah there is, they're gay

Nod ab argumenddd :==DD

You will likely never be in a position to define new laws. However, you are still able to decide for yourself whether you think something is wrong/disgusting

You will likely never be in a position to raise the legal age

This is pure autism

Talk about it like a real person

Does something anger or disgust you?

You will never be in a positon to ban it anyway

So just talk about what disgusts you

Society would be so much better if people were just honest with themselves about what they liked

Good start pal

Obviously you aren't in a postion to stop me

But at least you're talking about what you like/don't like

You're just abstractly talking about legal age limits and avoiding the actual topic at the ehart of it

Your conception of what's good and bad should be your starting point

If you think something's disgusting that's a pretty good indication that it's something that shouldn't be allowed as it's probably harmful for society

I'm telling you what I think

I'm not hiding my actual thoughts behind veils of abstraction

Good start

Should homosexuals groom teenagers?

Bingo

Now we get there

FUCK SAKE

Back to square one

If society were harsher on people committing actions that the vast majority of people dislike then we'd be fine

What I said doesn't at all imply mob rule

Mob rule would still be better than degenerate rule though tbh

No jackass you can have rulers that just do what is in people's interest.

Disgust is a primal instinct against that which is harmful

For normal people the disgust reflex is usually fairly consistent

How do you find my ideas disgusting? Do they seriously trigger a deep sense of queasiness and nausea? In that case see a doctor.

@The Electric Lizard I'm sure peadophiles don't find peadophilia disgusting. Should we listen to them?

Not at all. Disgust, in a normal person, is a healthy response to something that's bad for society.

The disgust instinct in a degenerate is obviously not up to scratch

>muh intolerance
Thanks for the generic leftist argument.

Tbh

Trump has failed on every one of his original election promises... except the ones he made to Israel

Tronald Blormph 2020!

Darnald Blimp won't build a wall, he hasn't in the last 4 years

Vote Trump if you like because tbh it won't make much difference either way

How long's the border again>

?

The border itself

The border wall isn't even worthwhile anyway if he's not clamping down on legal immigration

Yeah we all know that 90% of that wall is about as effective as cardboard

That's why people can cut through it with hand tools from home depot?

Yeah one county's wall doesn't really help when the rest of the border is flimsy

When it comes to a wall it's really all or nothing

In 20 years time the wall will be being used to keep all the mexicans from leaving the US

@TheCaledonian You haven't met my BASED friends Carlos and Tyrone

Indeed they do

20 years ago it would have been impossible to turn Virginia blue no matter how much gerrymandering you did