@snake Ah ok. I should have specified that. When I speak of English, Dutch etc, I refer to citizenship

Although, for me, someone would also have to speak Dutch as their native language and be culturally Dutch in order to be Dutch, making me different from a civnat

@happysmiley yes

Why do you guys associate race mixing with Jews btw?

And how is Israel an ethnostate?

It is literally what I want for Europe

The Jews are united by a common culture and langauhe

language*

Not really. Askhenazim are different to Mizrahim etc

You also have the Beta israeo

israel*

Really?

Anyway, you have Russians and Arabs too. as well as other gentiles

@Nerthulas Yeah, I support that. Unless they adopt our language and culture

I am a neo-zionist

By culture I mean converting to Judaism

And adopting Hebrew too ofc

@Nerthulas So just because of their genetics?

Is there proof that the Askhenazim and Mizrahim are more similar to each other than middle easterners and North Africans are to Europeans?

@Alt Knight Thanks!

Maghrebinian Jews don't cluster with us tho. And neither do Iraqi jews

With us I mean Askhenazim

@Nerthulas half Askhenazi

I identity as white though

@Deleted User I would need proof of them wanting to deportArabs due to ethnicity. Even Ben shapiro does not care about biological Judaism

@Nerthulas Because they are muslim and culturally as well as linguistically different

Ben does not care about ethnicity

@Nerthulas Match up yes. Inextricably linked? No.

@Nerthulas So your ethnicity determines the language you will be speaking to some extent?

@Deleted User He is on record saying he doesn't. He cares about religion, culture, and language when it comes to Israel. He wanted to deport Palestinians due to their religion, culture and language

Exactly. So genetics don't determine religion, language and culture

@Banjod Blacks have a low average IQ, and thus I think they are unable to sustain western civilisation

. @Banjod Sure, but the differences are not important, are they?

I will link studies tomorrow about the benefits of immigration

At the end of the day, if Whites want to produce an ethnostate, and it works, then I would not be against it.

It's just the low birth rate that is the problem @Nerthulas

https://www.google.com/amp/s/humandefense.com/the-economic-impact-of-low-birth-rates/amp/ The link to the study is within this article. The low fertility rates harm the economy in the long run

So immigration is needed into europe

@Str3tch But that will lead to a worse economy

@happysmiley Obviously that would be ideal. A world with whites is a better one, everything else equal. But it doesn't matter that much to me if culture and language are preserved

How does the extinction of Europeans affect you guys personally?

But you will be most likely dead when we as a people go extinct

@Alt Knight That's a good point. I actually agree to some extent.

Lol

Do you guys oppose marriage between different ethnic groups btw?

Like French and German

Or English and Russian

Ah ok

I mean white Russians like Putin

@esotericpazuzuism

@esotericpazuzuism Are you a natsoc?

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lmao

8 on girl, 10 on dude

Hapas are white

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Anyone interested in a conceptual/philosophical discussion here on ethno-nationalism?

I am against it

and yes

Like why are you for it, the ethics of establishing an ethno state etc

What's your position?

@Str3tch Is there any data showing that it's only white liberals not opposing immigration and multiculturalism? Might be a phenomenon common among most liberal people despite their race

It doesn't necessarily follow that Indian Americans wanting more h1b1 visas to India means that it's driven by ethnocentrism. It could be because they think that there are many talented people from there that should be given such a visa since they might not be able to fully exploit their talent in their native country. And why their native country as opposed to any other country? Because their parents are from there, so they have more experience with that culture.

I think a representative poll showing that most people supported the 1965 immigration act would be sufficient proof for me that people generally want to see more faces like them

opposed*

Does not indicate strong ethnocentrism among whites to me

Their views seemed more in line with mine

What would be an example of such indoctrination? Civil rights movement propaganda?

The Bolsheviks were quire socially conservative

Stalin was a massive homophobe for example

Are white Americans now overwhelmingly in favour of immigration restrictionism based on race? Because only 40% of white young people considered race important to them

And this is from an alt hyp vid

@Eternal Entropy sure I will

Why would Bolsheviks want to destroy the white race?

But not the black one?

Is it bc whites vote for small gov?

Whites are christian and Bolsheviks are overwhelmingly Jewish?

But most whites don't really care about religion. The Scandinavian countries are mostly atheist in practice, and probably in terms of faith too. They are only culturally christian at most. So why would the Jews promote degeneracy and cultural marxism as well as immigration in Scandinavian nations to destroy them? Or did the atheism arise as a result of the destruction process?

@Str3tch What would be an example of a traditional value being deemed bigotry? 🤔

@Eternal Entropy I will go through it, thanks for the link.

Yeah, intersectionality is cancer. But even the intersectionalists I know of don't oppose white people having children and a family. What they do oppose, however, is women being forced to have children and be a stay at home mothers when they don't want to, and as a result, want to eliminate societal pressures for them to be stay at home mothers, rather wanting them to have the choice to choose what they want.

@Str3tch Then most feminists would be fine with those women being such. They just don't want the stigma around not being home maker and mother.

What would be one example of such feminist? Or feminist organisation, body whatever

Probably sexist men, who derived the sexism from the bible

I am not.

Yeah, but granting that their biology informs them to do it, it does not follow that they should be doing it in terms of a society being constructed that enforces norms in alignment with their biological imperative. That would just be a form of naturallistic fallacy. Also, If it truly is the case that most women want to be home makers and mothers, then society eliminating the stigma around doing so, being neutral towards women being home markers and mothers, should not be opposed, especially since it will not pressure women who do no want children or be homemakers to be such

And women who do want to be such, due to their biological drive, will just voluntarily become home making mothers

Win win

I have taken some harsh red pills, such as the race and IQ question. I think I will be prepared in case there are other unpalatable truths to be unpacked.

What are your thoughts on gay rights entropy?

What if two dudes just want to hang each other in private and have a relationship?

Should there be pressure around that?

Ah ok

Gotcha

What about trans rights?

Some will literally commit suicide if they don't change tho

I agree that it's a mental illness tho

Guys, just a minute ago, I quickly glazed over the abstract of the Putnam paper, and contrary to what seems to be implied, Putnam himself states that immigration is beneficial in the long term and that these issues with social cohesion are short to medium term