BIGMAN
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fascism is structured similarly to the way that socialism is structured, there are loads of different denominations and variations which vary quite massively on certain issues. One example is that falangist fascists are perfectly happy with capitalism, whereas strasserists absolutely hate capitalism and are socialist in many ways
if you fundamentally cannot recognise that then you are wasting your time talking to us
our time more importantly ofc
the only real areas you can boil it down to are emphasis of social conservatism and the willingness to use state authority to impose it's will
fascism itself might not be inherently economic, but most denominations of it are
i meant imposition of will relative to libertarians
btw
i.e instead of saying 'duhh doii its their rights' about drag queens, u are just like nah fuck it and u ban it
no to both
anybody who is not aware that the fascism = leftism argument is a retarded TP:USA take needs to get with the times pls
i just wanna get us all on the same page here
ok
What about all of eastern europe where far-right and fascist ideology is thriving then?
lol nop
nope
leftism is inherently authoritarian since the method of achieving a communist society as prescribed by marx was through an initial stage of socialism, which relies on a strong authoritarian government
i get that communists emphasise a free/anarchic society, but if you need to use authoritarianism to get there, then you are authoritarian
then you're a lot of bad marxists
also i don't really care what most leftists believe if that's the way that leftist ideology has always manifested btw
100 years of socialist history are a much better demonstration of leftist ideology than some queer with a megaphone in california shouting about making a sex worker union
btw can i just ask what the entire point of this argument is
i was under the impression that none of us cared about authoritarianism
and if ur an ancap then ๐ค ๐ ๐ช
lol
ur just walking into the bait at this point
loooool
yes true
maybe barring some denominations which share socialist ideology like Strasserism, but overall tru
cats say no to trans rights
๐
i used to have a cat
i moved house tho so we left it with the neighbour
and that's a good thing ๐
yes
governments collapse, not nations
autarkic economic policy for hundreds of years of human history disagrees
infact most economic difficulties in the 20th century were from foreign economies failing
i.e US stock market depression
mainly decentralised banking
and as far as I remember most fascists tend to oppose mechanisms the banks use, like interest rates for instance
broadly speaking we aren't really either
fascism has always been about the most pragmatic economic approach depending on what your ambitions are
you're writing off the entirety of fascism as non-economic when there are plenty of brands of fascism which stress economics so much
again that's a huge generalisation
fascism is just a big tent movement when it comes to the issue of economics
yes because different brands of fascism have different ideas of the economy
its almost as if ur ignoring what i told you earlier
ofc
broadly speaking fascism places equal importance on the economy as most brands of socialism, it's just it is structured more pragmatically within fascism
you're sourcing ideological characteristics of fascism from someone who isn't fascist
that's like a free marketeer rebranding the five tenets of marxism
how do you not understand this
if you want to know what an actual ideology is about then go to the source material
again conflating fascism with white supremacy
is it impossible for blacks, asians and etc to be fascist?
no
so stop conflating the two retard
you're conflating fascism and white nationalism
fascism is about ethnic nationalism, meaning one single ethnicity
not the entire fucking race
to say fascism is only about nationalism and social conservatism would be grossly reductive of fascist theory
again it isn't about superiority either
most fascists today aren't even racist in much of a practical sense
it rarely ever extends beyond race realism
accepting scientific realities between different races is not racist, proposing to build a discriminatory policy ontop of that would be racist
i wasn't arguing with you earlier so i honestly dont care
incorrect
race realism is literally just acknowledgement of biological differences in race
that is literally it
no superiority or anything
literally just objective reality
most modern adaptations of fascism don't really care about other ethnicities and who is the master race or that kind of larpy shit
it's really just about ethnostates
that's why most of us are isolationist and dont rlly care abotu the middle east or anything else
incorrect again
again incorrect
mentioning the fact there are biological and cultural differences between groups which cannot function together cohesively in society is only divisive by the marxist dogma that everyone is literally the exact same
in reality it is just a statement of fact
neomarxism then
pointing out biological realities is racist
im not saying that is biologically explained
i'm saying that has been explained very well throughout 2000+ years of human history of different ethno-cultural groups warring with eachother
culture is largely derived from race and ancestry
warrior gene does exist btw
not just in a racial context
MAOA gene
is what it's called
just letting you know cuz i had to study that for a month in psychology btw
they would encounter significant difficulties fitting into a society shaped around different inherent nature than their own
which is what we see a lot of today
yeah
inherent nature
even if you were to reduce race down to visible skin colour, the kid would feel alien just on the merit he looked different, and etc
i mean he's just saying the same shit as before and ignoring what i said so ill let him have his fit
you literally started ur argument by saying something is as retarded as asserting the existence of a 'fake' gene even though the gene exists and i showed that to you
yes it is
it literally is lmao
google MAOA warrior gene
there you are
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