Message from @BIGMAN
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bullshit, scroll up
I said that leftism produces the state in which fascism can birth
i just wanna get us all on the same page here
ok
yeah that's just not true
is is tho
It is
ur a bitch
You have an authoritarian government and a bad economy
What about all of eastern europe where far-right and fascist ideology is thriving then?
Leftism is inherently non-authoritarian
lol nop
that's like, the whole point of leftism
nope
No its not
Leftists that are authoritarians are not Leftists
hence, Tankies
so aoc is not lefty?
leftism is inherently authoritarian since the method of achieving a communist society as prescribed by marx was through an initial stage of socialism, which relies on a strong authoritarian government
how is AOC an authoritarian
i get that communists emphasise a free/anarchic society, but if you need to use authoritarianism to get there, then you are authoritarian
@BIGMAN that is a massive reduction, and most leftists do not believe in the dictatorship of the prole like that
then you're a lot of bad marxists
aoc want to fulfill her political vision through authoritarian government policies
Leftism can be authoritarian nearly all leftist states were
Social Equality and anti-descrimination is not the same as authoritarianism
Is communism not leftist?
most forms of communism that have existed were authoritarian regimes, and only communist in name
also i don't really care what most leftists believe if that's the way that leftist ideology has always manifested btw
making racism illegal and decriminalizing illegal immigration is authoritarian
lol
really
is that your definition
Communism is not the left
anti-descrimination = taking away my rights to discriminate?
100 years of socialist history are a much better demonstration of leftist ideology than some queer with a megaphone in california shouting about making a sex worker union
That's where we're at in this debate
if you start locking up polititcal dissidents and so called "racists" you're an authoritarian
btw can i just ask what the entire point of this argument is
i was under the impression that none of us cared about authoritarianism
Its a distraction