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^ Simple fe debunk.
This is based off of the fe model
Each one ive seen
has antarctica around the entire world
then what makes a guess better than hundreds of years of science
doesn't really matter who. the fact that each part of antarctica on a map is visit-able, shows it's not incorrect
literally anyone can go to antarctica by themselves.
what is shown on a globe map.
anyone can go to antarctica and find out
therefore it isnt hidden
yes.
yes, though not recommended.
how am i lying xd
literally anyone can buy a plane and take a trip.
what's stopping me?
are you talking about commercial planes?
not sure, but that isn't exactly the point.
yes, i have
the antarctic treaty doesnt stop anyone
source?
i already read through it
personally owned boats?
if you specifically are manning the boat, and go to a certain place using a globe map
you would be landing in the wrong place
says the antarctic treaty?
just googled the antarctic commission, nothing pops up thats related
"If you had a good enough boat and provisions, no-ones going to stop you sailing there and exploring it yourself, in fact, one area named Marie Byrd Land isn't even claimed yet, so you may stake your own there."
in the entirety of antarctica?
don't you think people would know this then?
if everyone is saying all you need is a good boat and provisions
people would be going there, and debunking it
and expecting to roam freely
if everyone is saying you can roam freely, then people would go there expecting to roam freely, learn that they cant, and massively debunk this
the fact that the coast of antarctica isn't stretching around every land mass
and has the largest land mass perimeter
disproves fe
this is a debate channel
pretty much
If you were to explode a nuke into space, it would act as an EMP across the US and kill around 85% of America in 10 years.
Due to the EMP alone
About this picture, this isn't CGI. It just faded out and faded in a couple seconds later.
That's why the black thing on the left also fades then teleports a couple seconds ahead of where it was going.
Also the fact that if the "CGI" or whatevs you want to call it, is showing the man going through the door, there would be no reason to stop this and instead fade the man out of existence.
Astronauts put a retroreflector on the moon so anyone with a high powered laser could shoot it at the retroreflector would have the laser bounce back to earth.
Pretty sure it still stands on the moon to this day.
Oh, should I post this in <#484534825341157388>?
Yeah, I really can't stand the trolling rules. People really have saturated the meaning of "trolling" so much to ban whoever they don't like.
Bustr, Mutt, and Griefer trolls are hardly trolls, they're just being a general asshole.
And some of these "trolling" types are there purely to let staff abuse without taking criticism, like "concern troll".
A lot of these aren't trolls tbh
"If you cannot take criticism, then it can only mean you have no respect for them"
You're focused on the fact that I'm mildly concerned, not about *why* I'm concerned. Obviously, I'm concerned for a reason. So I don't see a reason to get angry
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If you take personal offense to things put in <#484513575801454593> then you must personally be tied with the guidelines in there.
And it's just fucking rules and I'm giving criticism, quit baby raging...
^ Space isn't fake. You can see each planet, the moon in very high detail (including craters), and satellites using a telescope, and astroauts put a retroreflector (kinda like a mirror) on the moon so anyone with a high powered laser can shoot it at the retroreflector and hive it bounce back to Earth.
I don't need sources. Anyone can buy a telescope or a high powered laser.
""Here's what I think troll"" Disagreeing with most of the things your opponent says isn't trolling. If I think the earth is a globe and someone else thinks the earth is a disk, then obviously we're going to disagree about most things.
"Amazon troll" Expressing a disliking of someone or something isn't trolling. Unless it's senseless rapid insults that is clearly intented to be trolling.
"Bustr troll" Not even a type of troll. It's just someone who's holding a grudge.
"Mutt troll" Also not a type of troll. It's someone who holds a grudge *and* gossips.
"Concern troll" When I googled the definition, it even pointed out that it's mis-used so often, and it is. Basically, if a staff bans or mutes someome for eating Froot Loops and not Fuity Pebbles, if anyone says it's abuse, they cry "conCErN tRolL1!11" and ban them aswell to cover themselves.
"Persistent Debate troll" I think this just describes someone who people don't like. Thinking you're right and everyone else is wrong isn't trolling, otherwise every flat earther would be trolling society. And trying to get the last message also isn't trolling, it's just a cringe thing people do when they try to win arguments.
Yeh
To what?
You said 'maybe a divine reason'
Wait, are you a flat earther or no? Im confused
I don't really believe in a god that much, but im not really athiest. When i die ill find out.
I mostly don't believe in a creator because evolution is pretty apparent even today, and churches were used to scam people for thousands of dollars until Martin Luther wrote about it.
Also how the Bible is the #1 sold book in america I'm pretty sure. It's a money driven world, i would really not be surprised if god didn't exist.
OML dude.
I said clearly that *anyone* can use a high powered laser, shoot it at the retro-reflector on the moon and have it bounce back to Earth. Pretty hard to hide the fact that there is no retro-reflector when you tell millions of people that you can all shoot a high powered laser at the reflector on the moon and have the laser bounce back.
The craters on the moon being caused by impacts is a more reasonable stance than "i don't know". And the craters are caused by impacts, as we *have* been to the moon, and the reflector is there to prove it.
Planets aren't just lights as they're not emitting light, and you can clearly see each planet with a telescope. You can see Jupiter's ring and its red spot clear as day through a telescope.
Satellites aren't just things flying above us, you can clearly see each part of the satellite, and even predict their orbit. There are countless guides by normal people with telescopes on how to see satellites with a telescope. Anyone with a telescope can see satellites and predict their orbit. And as it is a telescope, you can vividly see each part of the satellite because of how zoomed-in it is.
The fact that satellites are clearly observable by millions of people, including yourself, in orbit *due to gravity* and anyone can buy a high powered laser and shoot it at the retro-reflector proves the Earth is a globe, and that we have been to space. If this isn't enough evidence for you, then you are undeniably in a belief system, and I really can't help you. I won't judge if you change your mind, it's just switching a view.
^ Was trying to copy-paste what the bot deleted
Ok, so your claim is there is no reflector that can bounce lasers on the moon.
If so I would hold you to that.
Telescopes aren't a fortune.
The fact that people *can* buy a telescope makes it not impossible.
If they really wanted to hide this, they wouldn't allow the selling of telescopes.
That doesn't mean no one can.
Telescopes aren't that expensive anyways
I don't get why this matters. You're acting as if telescopes are artifacts impossible to obtain.
If you're really going to sit here and say that NASA told everyone that they put a reflector on the moon that can bounce back high powered lasers and encouraged people to do so, when they didn't, that not one of the 7 billion+ people on earth has debunked this.
Satellites aren't everywhere
Just read a guide
There are several from people who have seen them.
You do realize that that's the entire planet right
And not the pin point you're standing on.
You can go out and buy a high powered laser and shoot it at the retro-reflector right now and debunk your entire conspiracy belief.
*Makes a debate room*
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Then save up for one. If you can buy a car and a house, you can save up enough money to buy a laser and debunk a global conspiracy.
Refusing to debunk yourself.
You're in a belief system.
I really can't help you dude
Yes, and you can see it too.
But you refuse, of course.
Ok, are you simply saying it is physically impossible to buy a high powered laser, shoot it at the moon and have it bounce back to earth?
Yes or no.
Yes or no.
I'm literally asking you if there is a reflector on the moon
I'm asking you to. I know it's there.
Do you still have the telescope?
Do you still have the telescope?
If so, read a guide on how to find satellites using a telescope, and even how to predict their orbit. You're believing that there is 7 billion+ people in this world and not one single person has ever found out that there is no reflector, and that the millions who have used the reflector are all NASA secret agents.
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