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2018-11-16 04:29:16 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

So it really is an irrational belief system

2018-11-16 04:36:31 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I didnt say billions saw it

2018-11-16 04:36:42 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I said there are 7 billion+ people alive

2018-11-16 05:52:58 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I gave several ways you can prove to yourself that we've been to space and that there is orbit from gravity, but I guess that isn't enough. Logic really never is enough.

2018-11-16 18:23:22 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Citizen and reesey have been raping rule 15 for quite a while

2018-11-16 22:05:23 UTC [The Ice Wall #art-gallery]  

Just saw your post thing, by "teleports" I mean both the man and the black thing that's slightly moving upwards on the very left of the screen both fade out, then fade in around 4 seconds ahead.

2018-11-16 22:08:25 UTC [The Ice Wall #art-gallery]  

It looks like the man is CGI, or whatever graphical thing this is referring to, because the space station is stationary, no pun intended, but the man and the little black object on the left are not, they're moving. So it looks as though the man is the only thing being "graphically manipulated". Also, talk about zooming-in to get an angle out of context.

2018-11-17 00:33:28 UTC [The Ice Wall #art-gallery]  

W o a h, that's astonishingly amazing argument. Just claim I'm wrong and that I'm brain washed.

2018-11-17 00:33:32 UTC [The Ice Wall #art-gallery]  

๐Ÿ‘

2018-11-17 00:34:28 UTC [The Ice Wall #art-gallery]  

It fades out the clip and fades in further in time. When the man is through the door and the small black object is higher up.

2018-11-17 00:34:35 UTC [The Ice Wall #art-gallery]  

This isn't complicated.

2018-11-17 00:34:52 UTC [The Ice Wall #art-gallery]  

Yes, by fading out and fading in...

2018-11-17 00:35:10 UTC [The Ice Wall #art-gallery]  

Jesus christ dude, I'm explaining this simply.

2018-11-17 00:35:21 UTC [The Ice Wall #art-gallery]  

*Fade out, fade in*

2018-11-17 00:35:55 UTC [The Ice Wall #art-gallery]  

With common sense you can simply have the thought that there is no reason to make the man vanish.

2018-11-17 00:36:40 UTC [The Ice Wall #art-gallery]  

Not sure what this gif is supposed to be, but ok

2018-11-17 00:38:09 UTC [The Ice Wall #art-gallery]  

It's a blurry one second gif of a satellite looking object, I cant tell what it's supposed to show cause im brainwashed

2018-11-17 00:38:12 UTC [The Ice Wall #art-gallery]  

๐Ÿ‘

2018-11-17 00:38:32 UTC [The Ice Wall #art-gallery]  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484515645258596369/513150916690444288/boop.png

2018-11-17 00:38:41 UTC [The Ice Wall #art-gallery]  

Balls are flat confirmed

2018-11-17 00:39:00 UTC [The Ice Wall #art-gallery]  

Look, no curvature

2018-11-17 00:39:09 UTC [The Ice Wall #art-gallery]  

I was brainwashed all along!

2018-11-17 00:40:09 UTC [The Ice Wall #art-gallery]  

No curvature?

2018-11-17 00:40:25 UTC [The Ice Wall #art-gallery]  

Basketballs have bumps

2018-11-17 00:40:27 UTC [The Ice Wall #art-gallery]  

Boi

2018-11-17 00:40:35 UTC [The Ice Wall #art-gallery]  

It even says it's bumpy

2018-11-17 00:40:52 UTC [The Ice Wall #art-gallery]  

There is no curving downwards

2018-11-17 00:40:57 UTC [The Ice Wall #art-gallery]  

Must be flat.

2018-11-17 00:41:32 UTC [The Ice Wall #art-gallery]  

I don't think youve ever held a basketball

2018-11-17 00:41:42 UTC [The Ice Wall #art-gallery]  

There are small bumbs on them.

2019-02-04 04:36:24 UTC [The Ice Wall #members-log]  

2019-02-04 04:51:38 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

^
If the moon is thousands of miles up, why can we see the moon in daytime even through the entire atmosphere, but the world record for farthest distance seen is, I think 275 miles?

2019-02-04 04:54:28 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

If we can't see infinitely far on a flat Earth due to debris, humidity, etc... why can we see craters on the moon in daytime using telescopes when the moon is at least a thousand miles up, but we can hardly see over 250 miles looking straight even when using telescopes?

Why would it unite the planet?

At most, countries would just be forced to be better allies

against the "invasion"

also, they would literally never do that

That would literally cause global panic. All countries uniting into one, alien invasion, discovery of aliens that could kill humans, etc... would cause panic

Which is counter-intuitive

2019-02-06 05:37:44 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Do flat earthers have an explanation for why there is a Southern polar star but no South pole on any flat Earth models?

2019-02-06 14:00:00 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

From that very last image, im guessing that's supposed to be a globe and the lines are showing the star trails

2019-02-06 14:01:06 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Those are straight lines from that perspective, but that isn't the same perspective of the stars that we have standing on Earth.

2019-02-06 14:04:07 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

The lines are straight from the perspective of, let's say, floating in space away from Earth with the stars that close, but from the perspective of being on Earth, you can see the lines from the trails, and the ones away from your near center vision, about to the left and right, let's say the north and south poles were to the left and right, are visibly circles and not straight lines.

2019-02-06 14:04:31 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

It's hard to explain, and is mostly visual

2019-02-06 14:10:30 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I explained that poorly, but a better version is that it's like hula hoops. If you have a hula hoop and hold it out towards you perfectly horizontally, it can look like a straight line. But when you raise the hula hoop above your head, it's a circle.

If there were an alien invasion, theyd get wiped out by our alien bacteria in minutes.

2019-02-06 23:04:22 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Those images of the stars aren't looking straight up, and one of them is using a wide angled lense

2019-02-06 23:05:30 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

If you used a regular lense and positioned your camera so that the stars were completely vertical, they would be straight

2019-02-06 23:07:50 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

How straight, for each trail to be straight?

2019-02-06 23:09:32 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Ima eat then brb

2019-02-07 03:01:53 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Ok, now I get what you're saying.
The photo at 4:53 is using a wide angled lens I think, but the other photos, that's just how it would look on a spinning ball. The star trails you made on paper would look like straight lines, but that isn't the perspective people take photos from on Earth. If you drew the star trails *on* the ball, not away from it, then the stars would curve away from the equator because those stars aren't on the equator. Only the stars on the equator make straight lines.

2019-02-07 03:03:32 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Stars basically curve away from the equator because they aren't aligned with the equator, or not on the equator, so they're "trailing" but angled away from the equator

2019-02-07 03:04:08 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

It's hard to explain because it's mostly visual, but try drawing it from the perspective of being on the ball, and it would do the same thing.

2019-02-07 05:39:21 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Im not talking about the perspective formula or whatevs, Im talking about the angle at which you look at something

2019-02-07 05:40:03 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

From the angle you drew on paper, the lines are straight. From the perspective of standing *on* the ball, it would look the same as in the photos.

2019-02-07 05:40:47 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

You're drawing the star trails from a different perspective than the actual photos

2019-02-07 06:30:14 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

yeh, same reason why a southern polar star is impossible on a flat Earth yet it exists

anyone up for fortnite dame tu cosita theory

its that dame tu cosita and his sister crafted pickaxes all the way to fortnite to tell the government to stop making diamond hoes

2019-02-07 20:23:18 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

The government has nothing to do with peer review

2019-02-07 20:23:53 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Several independant sources study autism and find each time that it runs in the family, or is genetic

2019-02-07 20:24:08 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

And theyre independant from the government

2019-02-07 20:28:05 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Are there any tests done to prove vaccines dont work besides the government is shilling?

2019-02-07 20:28:31 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Can you share some

2019-02-07 20:29:06 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Just make a statement without the evidence then

2019-02-07 20:29:23 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Like "vaccines have this in them"

2019-02-07 20:30:52 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

How does a liquid cause autism?

2019-02-07 20:30:55 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Like... wut

2019-02-07 20:32:01 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Jesus christ lmao

2019-02-07 20:35:50 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Z, do you think autism is at all genetic?

2019-02-07 20:36:22 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Battle he sent like 100 linke lel

2019-02-07 20:37:15 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Yeah, but billions are vaccinated, also i think some people are allergic to the vaccine

2019-02-07 20:39:05 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Z, the same way you cant convince people that vaccines are bad, is the same way i cant convince you the earth is spherical. Its the same for everyone

2019-02-07 20:41:40 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Im willing to read stuff if its 1 link and not 100.

2019-02-07 20:43:35 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I think some people have allergic reactions to vaccines. Saw an anti vaxxer who had a reaction to a band aid

2019-02-07 20:45:47 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I would just like to say that autism causes lots of things to happen in the brain, I dont think a liquid could cause so many specific things to happen

2019-02-07 20:46:49 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Ima go waste time to die quicker cya

2019-02-08 15:33:15 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Flat earthers are very different from globe earthers, so globe earthers just want to debate them or see why they believe the earth is flat.

2019-02-08 15:45:12 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Id like to speak about the space being fake thing though.
We can see Jupiter and Saturn with its rings in the sky using telescopes. Flat earthers always say theyre just lights, but the planets are seen reflecting light, not emitting light.
We can see Jupiter's moons orbitting Jupiter and creating solar eclipses on Jupiter as the moons block out light from the Sun. The globe model even predicts when the next triple solar eclipse will happen on Jupiter, and this is all observable through telescopes.
The next triple solar eclipse on Jupiter is December 30, 2032.

2019-02-10 13:20:50 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Globebusters did an experiment with a ring laser gyroscope and calculated that if the Earth were a spinning ball, the Earth would rotate 15 degrees per hour, therefore the gyro would drift 15 degrees per hour, and it did.
They then put the gyro in a Zero Guass Chamber to remove any "heavenly energies" as a factor, and it still drifted.

2019-02-10 13:41:24 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I was going to keep going, but the 0 deaths from measles and 108 deaths from vaccines thing... really? Before I even start with this, it says "Deaths in the U.S. during the past 10 years" yet it says "2004 - 2015" which is 11 years. So which is it?
Since their using both 10 and 11, I'll average that out to 10.5 and divide 108 by that amount, which is 10.2.

So you're telling me that they made a vaccine industry costing billions of dollars to kill around 10 people out of the 325 million people in America a year? Amazing. Let's all get diseases because of this.

2019-02-10 16:55:45 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

You posted about 266 links, this is shotgun argumentation at its worst.

2019-02-10 16:57:17 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I was making my argument solely off of the anti-vax picture

2019-02-10 17:00:43 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I never actually asked questions, I just directly responded to that one anti vax picture

2019-02-10 17:04:51 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Someone died from measles in 2015 in california

2019-02-11 12:35:24 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Can people have perms to post images here?

2019-02-11 13:14:10 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Ill just post it in <#484515645258596369>

2019-02-11 13:14:54 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Nvm, no perms there either

2019-02-11 13:15:51 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I drew a picture of why the star trails diverge from the equatorial star trail, if you wanna see it then just ask

2019-02-11 20:21:47 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

The only news I know is of the government shutdown. I dont watch the news because 1. Boring. 2. Could be yellow journalism. 3. If it's important enough, I'll hear about it without watching the news, like the gov. shutdown.

2019-02-11 20:23:23 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I just wanted to test that

2019-02-11 20:23:43 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/538929818834698260/544614533268897792/artflow_201902110843.png

2019-02-11 20:24:26 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

This is a visualization of the star trails and why they diverge from the equatorial star trail.

2019-02-11 20:25:52 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Im pretty sure the heart is on the left side

2019-02-11 20:26:42 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

How so?

2019-02-11 20:26:50 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

It's about the exact same

2019-02-11 20:41:21 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

It's impossible for a curved star strail, like a star trail near a polar star, to be a straight line while far to the left/right of your FOV

2019-02-11 20:42:20 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

It's like holding a hula hoop out in front of you vertically and seeing a straight line, then moving it to the right and still seeing a straight line and not an arc towards your middle FOV

2019-02-11 20:46:13 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

It's an analogy

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