Jonn

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2017-06-23 13:27:20 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

Anyone got good book recommendations for Chinese politics?

2017-06-23 13:34:19 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

Well one guy called me a retard because I asked for a source

2017-06-23 13:45:20 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

@Deleted User definitely

2017-06-23 13:49:54 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

>wikipedia is kike propaganda
>literally posts a YouTube channel that makes Hitler fan videos as a source

2017-06-23 13:50:11 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

>then posts "thefuhrerbunker" as another source

2017-06-23 13:50:19 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

๐Ÿ˜‚

2017-06-23 13:51:28 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

Kek

2017-06-23 13:53:26 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

I posted more than wikipedia and the guys source even confirmed what I was saying but "kike propaganda "still

2017-06-23 13:53:42 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

Even from his own source ๐Ÿ˜‚

2017-06-23 14:02:34 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

Yes

2017-06-23 14:02:54 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

Oh yeah I made this my name a long time ago and never changed it

2017-06-23 22:22:13 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

BUMP

2017-06-23 22:22:28 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

Nobody is in Chinese!

2017-06-23 22:22:51 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

Anyone have good chinese books to understand modern politics

2017-06-24 00:29:24 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

I mean current politics in China. Y'know that insider shit. I've got some books, but want to know if there's more. It will be hard me not knowing chinese though

2017-06-25 13:04:18 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

Thanks

2017-06-25 13:05:20 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

I was reading Richard McGregor

The Party: The Secret World of China's Communist Rulers

This was supposed to give some info on the "Jiang faction" thay I saw people crying about on some chats

2017-06-25 13:05:34 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

Think it's best to just switch straight to the one you sent?

2017-06-26 19:26:07 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

@Deleted User I plan to but didn't know which would be best to start with. Probably doesn't matter though

2017-06-26 19:29:48 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

Thanks will do

2017-06-26 19:30:14 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

The guo wengui stuff I read recently really motivated me to want to study the politics itself more closely(or what you can see of it)

2017-06-26 19:36:56 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

That's the initial feeling I had that the cia was behind it. The timing before the 2017 party conference(?) Is too suspicious, but it is still very interesting

2017-06-29 22:46:17 UTC [/leftypol/ International #japanese]  

Any good books on Japanese as it stands now? Not history, but recent politics.

2017-07-01 14:12:51 UTC [/leftypol/ International #japanese]  

@Trestkie the latter but I'm more of a sinoboo

2017-07-04 01:55:32 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

This book by Cheng Li is a pretty rough read. I started to skip around once I got to the Education chapter. I am now reading about more about Factions. Very interesting stuff. Definitely didn't think abpout this aspect of very differing factions oddly

2017-07-04 11:49:29 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

Thanks

2017-07-04 13:11:13 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

Wew from cheng li's book. The Hu camp seems to have the younger generation of the party locked up heavily. This next decade will be very interesting

2017-07-04 14:02:16 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

Yeah I just read their educational background for the Hu camp. That isn't a good setup to run a nation. I'm excited to read the three principles of the people if it helps to get a better understanding. This Ching Li book is very informative for learning about the government structure and current positions of the government, but it still feels like that insider feel to get a better grasp of the society/governing society is missing. I guess that is difficult to do with something as opaque as the Chinese government though. His book isn't trying to do that either and it succeeds in what it is trying. I am just starting the Protege section now

Thank you very much for these book recommendations

2017-07-06 14:35:17 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

I too am anti identity politics

2017-07-06 14:35:47 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

But I don't think I'd be declared as a lefty. I'm pretty socially and somewhat economically liberal

2017-07-06 14:36:59 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

I personally dislike discussing ideologies and rather would talk topics

2017-07-06 14:39:06 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

What's your ideology ? @gronkt

2017-07-06 14:39:23 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

Ah a natsoc

2017-07-06 14:39:40 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

Ah a natsoc

2017-07-06 14:40:14 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

National socialism is pretty shitty

2017-07-06 14:41:19 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

You have to discuss each form of communism if you want to discuss communism, especially if you are a national socialist. I hear "national socialism isnt socialism!" so much

2017-07-06 14:42:40 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

I'm just saying a natsoc cant play the special ideology card while not allowing communists to also

2017-07-06 14:43:05 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

So was hitler

2017-07-06 14:43:44 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

๐Ÿ˜’

2017-07-06 14:44:23 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

Also China has a lot of technology and is rapidly advancing it while being run by the Communist Party

2017-07-06 14:45:08 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

In a very simplified form

2017-07-06 14:47:00 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

>you cant escape the joo discussions

2017-07-06 14:47:29 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

You natsocs are pretty retarded at the same time though

2017-07-06 14:48:30 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

For instance let's look at the recent CNN fiasco. A lot of people wanted to use it to attack CNN's advertisers and put pressure on them to drop CNN. This is a very smart idea and could potentially weaken a political enemy.

NATSOCs on the other hand wanted to use it to bring attention to the Jew meme that the guy made. This is a very stupid idea and would kill the movement in its entirety right there

2017-07-06 14:48:51 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

Neo Nazis*

2017-07-06 14:49:51 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

I don't deny that Jews have a lot of power, especially when considering how small they are. I think it is a weakness to focus ALL of your attention ALL of the time on them

2017-07-06 14:50:45 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

At least do something with that energy to go after Jews if you really hate them so much. Research their groups, etc. Then bring that information and I'd love to hear it, but to just hear complaining about the jews nonstop is annoying

2017-07-06 14:52:08 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

China is a weird form of capitalism

2017-07-06 14:52:14 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

They control EVERYTHING

2017-07-06 14:52:19 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

The Communist Party does I mean. No company can be powerful in China without their approval and oversight

2017-07-06 14:53:33 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

๐Ÿค”

2017-07-06 14:54:45 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

tfw most of my ancestry comes from holland

2017-07-06 14:56:45 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

I'm not too sure about the Netherlands politics, but in the USA local elections are where it counts big

2017-07-06 14:57:09 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

Like you see Texas people pushing against laws constantly.

2017-07-06 14:57:45 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

Lad

2017-07-06 14:57:51 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

Local elections in the USA are so important

2017-07-06 14:58:08 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

The reason the right wing has a hold is because the left's voter base doesn't vote in them kek

2017-07-06 14:58:22 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

I just mean going out and voting in the local elections

2017-07-06 14:58:38 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

Sure they all fall under the same party, but some of them lean further away

2017-07-06 14:59:10 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

They affect other things though

2017-07-06 14:59:22 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

for instance we(Texas) just had our state supreme court rule against gay marriage in a sort

2017-07-06 15:00:17 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

It will go to the USA supreme court and hs another chance to change it. If Kennedy steps down and Republicans put in another judge of their choosing. Could we see Gay marriage rolled back?

2017-07-06 15:00:52 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

That all started in a local court

2017-07-06 15:01:39 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

<:porky:315615014751043588>

2017-07-06 15:02:32 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

Nice

2017-07-06 15:03:00 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

You are absolutely correct @Seedle

2017-07-06 15:04:36 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

We will see a Caliphate in Europe

2017-07-07 21:35:24 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

@Deleted User fuck off meme

2017-07-07 21:36:23 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

White nationalism will never take hold in the usa

2017-07-07 21:38:07 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

>white ethnostate
>green frog

2017-07-07 21:38:38 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

Why are these memes invading a lefty pol server

2017-07-07 21:39:04 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

Quit spamming

2017-07-07 21:40:06 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

Natsocs are a meme

2017-07-07 21:41:05 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

So what's the discussion

2017-07-07 21:41:42 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

The picture spamming is pretty annoying

2017-07-07 21:42:13 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

Neo nazis are such memes

2017-07-07 21:42:31 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

Sure

2017-07-07 21:42:39 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

Tell me lies, tell me lies

2017-07-07 21:43:06 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

I'm not a commie

2017-07-07 21:43:21 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

But why would you come to a random commie server and spam

2017-07-07 21:43:41 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

Both are retarded things to do

2017-07-07 21:44:33 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

So is there a discussion or are you just going to spam meme graphs?

2017-07-07 21:45:27 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

@sorestree- SD kek this is true. The Neo nazis try to derail every political discussion to spam talking points on things they don't even understand

2017-07-07 21:47:03 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

>they cant discuss anything outside of memes ๐Ÿ˜†

2017-07-07 21:47:56 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

>following ideologies

2017-07-07 21:48:08 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

Read crowd psychology boi

2017-07-07 21:49:20 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

I'm an anarcho fascist

2017-07-07 21:50:10 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

No

2017-07-07 21:50:44 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

It's my social ideology, but economically I am somewhat of a free market communist

2017-07-07 21:50:47 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

I also subscribe to Juche

2017-07-07 21:51:25 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

But also a fascist

2017-07-07 21:51:56 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/333002223477063680/tumblr_n0hazxwhre1ts13t1o1_500.png

2017-07-07 21:52:26 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

It's the ideology of real men

2017-07-07 21:53:09 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

It's just what comes with the hijab that is oppression

2017-07-07 21:53:53 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

Women in islam are absolutely oppressed. To deny this would be insane

2017-07-07 21:55:16 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

>let them figure their own stuff out

2017-07-07 21:55:17 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

I bet you're an isolationist

2017-07-07 21:56:32 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

>giving the middle east the opportunity to come together

2017-07-07 21:56:50 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

Even though it is a small chance we should crush them and divide their nations up into small nations with no power instead

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