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2017-06-23 13:27:20 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

Anyone got good book recommendations for Chinese politics?

2017-06-23 13:34:19 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

Well one guy called me a retard because I asked for a source

2017-06-23 13:45:20 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

@Deleted User definitely

2017-06-23 13:49:54 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

>wikipedia is kike propaganda
>literally posts a YouTube channel that makes Hitler fan videos as a source

2017-06-23 13:50:11 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

>then posts "thefuhrerbunker" as another source

2017-06-23 13:50:19 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  


2017-06-23 13:51:28 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  


2017-06-23 13:53:26 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

I posted more than wikipedia and the guys source even confirmed what I was saying but "kike propaganda "still

2017-06-23 13:53:42 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

Even from his own source πŸ˜‚

2017-06-23 14:02:34 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  


2017-06-23 14:02:54 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

Oh yeah I made this my name a long time ago and never changed it

2017-06-23 22:22:13 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  


2017-06-23 22:22:28 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

Nobody is in Chinese!

2017-06-23 22:22:51 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

Anyone have good chinese books to understand modern politics

2017-06-24 00:29:24 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

I mean current politics in China. Y'know that insider shit. I've got some books, but want to know if there's more. It will be hard me not knowing chinese though

2017-06-25 13:04:18 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  


2017-06-25 13:05:20 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

I was reading Richard McGregor

The Party: The Secret World of China's Communist Rulers

This was supposed to give some info on the "Jiang faction" thay I saw people crying about on some chats

2017-06-25 13:05:34 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

Think it's best to just switch straight to the one you sent?

2017-06-26 19:26:07 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

@Deleted User I plan to but didn't know which would be best to start with. Probably doesn't matter though

2017-06-26 19:29:48 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

Thanks will do

2017-06-26 19:30:14 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

The guo wengui stuff I read recently really motivated me to want to study the politics itself more closely(or what you can see of it)

2017-06-26 19:36:56 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

That's the initial feeling I had that the cia was behind it. The timing before the 2017 party conference(?) Is too suspicious, but it is still very interesting

2017-06-29 22:46:17 UTC [/leftypol/ International #japanese]  

Any good books on Japanese as it stands now? Not history, but recent politics.

2017-07-01 14:12:51 UTC [/leftypol/ International #japanese]  

@Trestkie the latter but I'm more of a sinoboo

2017-07-04 01:55:32 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

This book by Cheng Li is a pretty rough read. I started to skip around once I got to the Education chapter. I am now reading about more about Factions. Very interesting stuff. Definitely didn't think abpout this aspect of very differing factions oddly

2017-07-04 11:49:29 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  


2017-07-04 13:11:13 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

Wew from cheng li's book. The Hu camp seems to have the younger generation of the party locked up heavily. This next decade will be very interesting

2017-07-04 14:02:16 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

Yeah I just read their educational background for the Hu camp. That isn't a good setup to run a nation. I'm excited to read the three principles of the people if it helps to get a better understanding. This Ching Li book is very informative for learning about the government structure and current positions of the government, but it still feels like that insider feel to get a better grasp of the society/governing society is missing. I guess that is difficult to do with something as opaque as the Chinese government though. His book isn't trying to do that either and it succeeds in what it is trying. I am just starting the Protege section now

Thank you very much for these book recommendations

2017-07-06 14:35:17 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

I too am anti identity politics

2017-07-06 14:35:47 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

But I don't think I'd be declared as a lefty. I'm pretty socially and somewhat economically liberal

2017-07-06 14:36:59 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

I personally dislike discussing ideologies and rather would talk topics

2017-07-06 14:39:06 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

What's your ideology ? @gronkt

2017-07-06 14:39:23 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

Ah a natsoc

2017-07-06 14:39:40 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

Ah a natsoc

2017-07-06 14:40:14 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

National socialism is pretty shitty

2017-07-06 14:41:19 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

You have to discuss each form of communism if you want to discuss communism, especially if you are a national socialist. I hear "national socialism isnt socialism!" so much

2017-07-06 14:42:40 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

I'm just saying a natsoc cant play the special ideology card while not allowing communists to also

2017-07-06 14:43:05 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

So was hitler

2017-07-06 14:43:44 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  


2017-07-06 14:44:23 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

Also China has a lot of technology and is rapidly advancing it while being run by the Communist Party

2017-07-06 14:45:08 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

In a very simplified form

2017-07-06 14:47:00 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

>you cant escape the joo discussions

2017-07-06 14:47:29 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

You natsocs are pretty retarded at the same time though

2017-07-06 14:48:30 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

For instance let's look at the recent CNN fiasco. A lot of people wanted to use it to attack CNN's advertisers and put pressure on them to drop CNN. This is a very smart idea and could potentially weaken a political enemy.

NATSOCs on the other hand wanted to use it to bring attention to the Jew meme that the guy made. This is a very stupid idea and would kill the movement in its entirety right there

2017-07-06 14:48:51 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

Neo Nazis*

2017-07-06 14:49:51 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

I don't deny that Jews have a lot of power, especially when considering how small they are. I think it is a weakness to focus ALL of your attention ALL of the time on them

2017-07-06 14:50:45 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

At least do something with that energy to go after Jews if you really hate them so much. Research their groups, etc. Then bring that information and I'd love to hear it, but to just hear complaining about the jews nonstop is annoying

2017-07-06 14:52:08 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

China is a weird form of capitalism

2017-07-06 14:52:14 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

They control EVERYTHING

2017-07-06 14:52:19 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

The Communist Party does I mean. No company can be powerful in China without their approval and oversight

2017-07-06 14:53:33 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  


2017-07-06 14:54:45 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

tfw most of my ancestry comes from holland

2017-07-06 14:56:45 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

I'm not too sure about the Netherlands politics, but in the USA local elections are where it counts big

2017-07-06 14:57:09 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

Like you see Texas people pushing against laws constantly.

2017-07-06 14:57:45 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  


2017-07-06 14:57:51 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

Local elections in the USA are so important

2017-07-06 14:58:08 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

The reason the right wing has a hold is because the left's voter base doesn't vote in them kek

2017-07-06 14:58:22 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

I just mean going out and voting in the local elections

2017-07-06 14:58:38 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

Sure they all fall under the same party, but some of them lean further away

2017-07-06 14:59:10 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

They affect other things though

2017-07-06 14:59:22 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

for instance we(Texas) just had our state supreme court rule against gay marriage in a sort

2017-07-06 15:00:17 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

It will go to the USA supreme court and hs another chance to change it. If Kennedy steps down and Republicans put in another judge of their choosing. Could we see Gay marriage rolled back?

2017-07-06 15:00:52 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

That all started in a local court

2017-07-06 15:01:39 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  


2017-07-06 15:02:32 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  


2017-07-06 15:03:00 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

You are absolutely correct @Seedle

2017-07-06 15:04:36 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

We will see a Caliphate in Europe

2017-07-07 21:35:24 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

@Deleted User fuck off meme

2017-07-07 21:36:23 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

White nationalism will never take hold in the usa

2017-07-07 21:38:07 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

>white ethnostate
>green frog

2017-07-07 21:38:38 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

Why are these memes invading a lefty pol server

2017-07-07 21:39:04 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

Quit spamming

2017-07-07 21:40:06 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

Natsocs are a meme

2017-07-07 21:41:05 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

So what's the discussion

2017-07-07 21:41:42 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

The picture spamming is pretty annoying

2017-07-07 21:42:13 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

Neo nazis are such memes

2017-07-07 21:42:31 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  


2017-07-07 21:42:39 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

Tell me lies, tell me lies

2017-07-07 21:43:06 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

I'm not a commie

2017-07-07 21:43:21 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

But why would you come to a random commie server and spam

2017-07-07 21:43:41 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

Both are retarded things to do

2017-07-07 21:44:33 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

So is there a discussion or are you just going to spam meme graphs?

2017-07-07 21:45:27 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

@sorestree- SD kek this is true. The Neo nazis try to derail every political discussion to spam talking points on things they don't even understand

2017-07-07 21:47:03 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

>they cant discuss anything outside of memes πŸ˜†

2017-07-07 21:47:56 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

>following ideologies

2017-07-07 21:48:08 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

Read crowd psychology boi

2017-07-07 21:49:20 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

I'm an anarcho fascist

2017-07-07 21:50:10 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  


2017-07-07 21:50:44 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

It's my social ideology, but economically I am somewhat of a free market communist

2017-07-07 21:50:47 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

I also subscribe to Juche

2017-07-07 21:51:25 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

But also a fascist

2017-07-07 21:51:56 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]

2017-07-07 21:52:26 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

It's the ideology of real men

2017-07-07 21:53:09 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

It's just what comes with the hijab that is oppression

2017-07-07 21:53:53 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

Women in islam are absolutely oppressed. To deny this would be insane

2017-07-07 21:55:16 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

>let them figure their own stuff out

2017-07-07 21:55:17 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

I bet you're an isolationist

2017-07-07 21:56:32 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

>giving the middle east the opportunity to come together

2017-07-07 21:56:50 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

Even though it is a small chance we should crush them and divide their nations up into small nations with no power instead

2017-07-07 21:58:50 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

Nice meme

2017-07-07 22:01:10 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

It's LARPing, it's what you neo nazi's are good at

2017-07-07 22:03:03 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

So are most natsocs

2017-07-07 22:03:23 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

It's a childish ideology born out of emotional rage

2017-07-07 22:03:30 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

It's a meme ideology

2017-07-07 22:04:10 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

You can read history to get a good representation of national socialists if you don't like my view of them

2017-07-07 22:05:01 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

I've talked to so few nazis who have any clue what is going on in the world. They consider any sources that contradict their infographs kike propaganda too

2017-07-07 22:06:33 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

@sorestree- SD No I'm on another server that's filled with nazis of all ages

2017-07-07 22:06:54 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

>disagree with the group think

2017-07-07 22:07:40 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

That and /pol/ are what I have to base my opinion of neo nazis on

2017-07-07 22:08:49 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

If you know someone is a nazi irl then they're stupid as fuck

2017-07-07 22:10:05 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

Falling for the ideology meme is a meme

2017-07-07 22:11:04 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

@Firefly /pol blamed everything on jews

2017-07-07 22:11:26 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

I talked to a neonazi who blamed the Jews for the Greek debt crisis

2017-07-07 22:12:38 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

i can tell you this was one of the serious nazis

2017-07-07 22:12:49 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

EU isn't to blame for the Greek debt crisis

2017-07-07 22:13:15 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

I have

2017-07-07 22:13:56 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

To get an idea of why GREECE is fully to blame. You can look up their average wages, welfare spending, pension spending, and every other social program out there

2017-07-07 22:14:13 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

There's more than just that, but you will get the idea from that alone

2017-07-07 22:15:09 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

Communism also thrives in shitty falling countries

2017-07-07 22:15:25 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

The way the USA defeated communism in the Asia Pacific was to build the economies

2017-07-07 22:16:22 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

I don't follow ideologies or spend time reading about them

2017-07-07 22:16:49 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

Conservative/capitalist probably

2017-07-07 22:16:52 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

im not full either way

2017-07-07 22:17:35 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

I don't care about either of them. Well I didn't care about abortion, but hearing some liberals talk about it really disgust me tbh

2017-07-07 22:17:42 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

I'm very socially liberal

2017-07-07 22:18:43 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

I can't remember what the charts were for the Greece academic journal I read, but it was similar to Spain. Their spending was crazy. I remember wages as one part, but this could be from the boost

2017-07-07 22:20:16 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

I saw in a documentary that the greek government never even collected all the taxes. This is hard to believe a government doing this

2017-07-07 22:20:26 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

Being in the EU hurt them *after* the crisis

2017-07-07 22:20:43 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

The problem is their fault though

2017-07-07 22:21:06 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

Excessive spending like idiots. Ireland did the same

2017-07-07 22:21:50 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

I read a lot about each european crisis but i cant remember too well atm

2017-07-07 22:22:02 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

Democracy is shit

2017-07-07 22:23:27 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

I like Lee Kuan Yew's idea where people aged 40-65 with children should have 2 votes

2017-07-07 22:25:11 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

Democracies allow people to feel like they're voting someone new in without realizing that person is owned by the same groups

2017-07-07 22:25:29 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

I guess it is a stable way though

2017-07-07 22:25:50 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

Democracies today are extremely corrupt too

2017-07-07 22:25:55 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

It's just legalized corruption

2017-07-07 22:25:59 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

>stoics are fags

2017-07-07 22:26:58 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

Wasn't that Caesar

2017-07-07 22:27:06 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

Had he taken charge at this time or was he the end of the republic?

2017-07-07 22:27:44 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

Their reliance on slaves really fucked em good

2017-07-07 22:30:08 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

Let's be honest, the romans were technologically shit too

2017-07-07 22:30:24 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

They relied too heavily on slaves so they didn't advance their technology. It's a large reason they got wrecked in the end

2017-07-07 22:31:25 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

They did have technology but they didn't continue to advance on it because of their reliance on slaves

2017-07-07 22:31:54 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

I think they were pretty advanced still though. Cement wasn't rediscovered for a long time after the western side fell right?

2017-07-07 22:32:25 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

^^^^^^^ TRUTH

2017-07-07 22:34:15 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

USA is pretty amazing just admit it

2017-07-07 22:34:54 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

It's a constantly changing culture

2017-07-07 22:35:18 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

Read this book and tell me how it is(im interested in reading it, but reading too much china atm)

2017-07-07 22:36:14 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

This actually sounds like an interesting book.
American Nations: A History of the Eleven Rival Regional Cultures of North America

2017-07-07 22:36:22 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

>its on the 2017 stratfor reading list, but it came out in 2012

2017-07-07 22:36:39 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

>he isnt a neocon

2017-07-07 22:37:23 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

Yeah and it is on the Stratfor suggested reading list. They usually have pretty good quality stuff put out

2017-07-07 22:38:09 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

America HAD bee n pretty good at assimilation i think

2017-07-07 22:38:57 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

>obama saying this

2017-07-07 22:39:24 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

It's so crazy that it's hard to believe, but I will take your word

2017-07-07 22:39:33 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

English is the official language

2017-07-07 22:39:57 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  


2017-07-07 22:40:23 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

>hes right

2017-07-07 22:40:32 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

we have no official language (at the federal language)

2017-07-07 22:40:43 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

That's upsetting

2017-07-07 22:40:53 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

English is still the language though

2017-07-07 22:41:01 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

It's a global language now

2017-07-07 22:41:28 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

That's actually an interesting insight Lee Kuan Yew gave on China. If they don't give up their hold onto Chiense it will hurt them in terms of foreign skilled workers coming to China

2017-07-07 22:41:51 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

I'm looing up American culture and seeing pictures of tacos and "diversity" is one of them

2017-07-07 22:42:54 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

We just need to quit being pussies

2017-07-07 22:43:17 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  


2017-07-07 22:45:01 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

Do you want a white ethnostate?

2017-07-07 22:45:49 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

Immigration has its strengths if done properly, but it unfortunately isn't happening

2017-07-07 22:50:52 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

>not having cheap labor

2017-07-14 23:38:39 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]

2017-07-14 23:38:48 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

Good representation of Chinese citizens? Anyone read it?

2017-07-18 08:42:02 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  


2017-07-21 22:28:26 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

Post good Chinese youtubes/podcasts. I know of "The Little Red Podcast" and that's it

2017-08-12 21:18:05 UTC [/leftypol/ International #international]  

Probably an ideologically charged individual. They tend to act recklessly

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