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Anything you guys wanted to discuss in particular?

I see. Here's the thing, I'm not sold 100% sold on ethno-nationalism. I've been reading a lot of books on politics, philosophy, history, and theology, etc. A lot of right wing/reactionary stuff too. I think that there are more practical and less controversial actions that individuals and communities should pursue before ethno-nationalism. For example have you heard of the Benedict option?

I see a return to traditional Christian orthodoxy as a more beneficial path for society. The Benedict option is book encouraging orthodox Christians to form tight-knit citadels of faith and community to withstand progressive society. For me the main problems in society is the collapse of marriage and family, consumerism, materialism, secularism, transgenderism, and atomization. I don't see a political movement based on whiteness fixing those problems especially when whites are the most complicit in some of these things. I know a lot of people these days are atheist or agnostic, so they won't like what I have to say, but it's what I think is true. A lot of European/Western culture and tradition is enshrined in orthodox Christianity, so I think reviving tradition can revive civilization and culture. White is just too shallow, because everything else in the modern world is shallow.

I'm sure that's true. I'm Catholic and I have a of Catholic friends who are non-white but they live and breath traditional values than white Catholics, myself included. In fact they serve as good role models on how to be and live. There are devout priests from Africa who are bringing Americans and Europeans back to the Church in droves, and are reviving traditional liturgies. My reservations are that white nationalism might ruin that. I know it's hard to believe but Western civilization may be preserved in former backwards places like Africa and Eastern Europe. (However that doesn't mean I'm pro immigration though.)

I'm reading through The Strange Death of Europe by Douglas Murray atm. I'm totally sold on why we need to stop immigrating so many people, especially the Islamic world. But I'm also not opposed to a parish getting an African priest who is totally fearless to speak out against sin and degeneracy from the pulpit.

@IdentityIndiana Maybe someday, and if that day comes I might be there for it. But for me right now, I am interest in non-political (or even anti-political) means of fixing the crisis. As someone who lives in Minneapolis, there is so much self hate people have for their whiteness, it's mentally destabilizing them. If a Midwest white nationalist movement tried to take off tomorrow, it would be torpedoed by white progressives, not non-whites.

@The Pigeon Not so much from the older priests from what I've seen, but the newest generation of priests give me hope. There still is a shortage of priests across the U.S and Europe, and the Church so I think they will be a benefit. Look at this way. Priests are celibate. An African priest isn't going to intermarry or have a large family that would contribute to displacement. It's also possible that an African priest by speaking out against contraception, abortion, and pre-marital sex, and promoting the traditional family while drawing in young people back to the Church, could help bring back large white traditional families. Should we really send them back in that case? Let me be clear, I'm not making a case for immigration or multiculturalism by using the example of the priest. All I'm saying is that there are non-white people who can aid the cause of white Europeans because their voice gives strength to those of us who want to revive tradition. I guess I still believe that traditional values are more important than racial homogeneity. If you disagree I understand, but that's where I'm at.

You're probably right about that. I've been thinking that I should I move out of the city for a few years to get a different experience of life.

For real. I went to a College in a small town and grew to love it. I was born and raised in the city so I have a fondness for them too, but these days they've gotten so liberal it's getting to be alienating. It's sad to see what's happening to people in the cities these days.

True too many people give up entirely cities because all the weird shit that goes on in them. But there's so much great architecture and culture there that if we abandoned them completely we would lose a huge part of ourselves.

I found a facebook page called Midwest Reactionaries, maybe you should get in contact with them? There's over 2000 people following it.

here's the fb link https://www.facebook.com/MidwestReactionariesOfficial/

also identity there's some typos in the website