I can 'produce on my own' (what the fuck does that even mean?), but my own actions are a drop in the ocean.

Do you think that I consider myself to be a Messiah who can magically whip up a revolution? Am I Lenin on steroids?

And I neither said nor implied that I completely grasp Communism. I have my own battles to fight regarding that; I will never be free of battles. My point is that you have infinitely less reasons to call yourself one than I do.

'who even has the time'? Okay, **who has the time to read Marx and Engels**?

You don't want to deal with my words? Fine, but you show no familiarity with the greats of the Communist tradition.

```"you need the entirety of communism to stomp me"
```

Where did I say that?

```you cleary dont produce, you are a unproductive worker just larping communism so others will carry your load```

And Engels was a capitalist. Did that affect his theory in a definite manner?

You're not even arguing with what I'm saying at this point; you're just saying that I have a certain background and that I'm [x]-splaining using reasoning that I would 'of course' have.

***Do you know what that is? IDENTITY POLITICS.***

```>pick one```

Both! I am not *the ultimate* Communist. Such a person will never exist and will never even be conceived of in thought as a definite and concrete thing. All that I'm saying is that you don't have any more reasons to call yourself one than I do given your position - in fact, *you have far fewer*.

At closest, you're an ethnonationalist syndicalist.

I mean, just look at what you're fucking saying: "in communism whith no class you have other more productive workers carry your load"

Communism is a movement which seeks to abolish class. We seek a classless society. It's *you* who needs to pick one between:
1) Communism
2) Prolonged racial and 'collar' segregation

Anyway, to get back to the stomping point: **this was never about stomping on you; it's about stomping on your gods**.

You want to play the cheap psychoanalysis game with me regarding how my arguments are owed to my position in the current society? I can play a very similar game. Watch.

The fact that you insist on alleging that I'm talking about stomping on you rather than your gods might not be a misreading but rather a sign that you identify with your gods.

A large part of your identity is constructed around your *de facto* third-positionist struggle.

You cannot think outside that narrow and frankly stupid ideology.

The ways in which you regard my posts reek of the ways in which a stroppy teenager regards a subculture that they don't like.

You seem utterly incapable of taking anything that I'm saying seriously; you pass yourself off as not being interested. I notice this among a lot of the LARPing shits that I've seen in the last few months: when someone tries to engage with them on a serious, intellectual level, they suddenly say that they can't be serious and they laugh their heads off.

'What an autist this guy is! Get a load of him, he must have an IQ of 206 according to some online test!'

You can survive while passing yourself off as someone who isn't interested - hell, sometimes it can even save your arse in case some terrorists or another come along and use your politics against you.

But you are not in such a situation. You're in a place which was set aside for theoretical discourse.

And you're involving yourself in this discussion by even beginning to call yourself a Communist and all of that.

You could be trolling. You could be a bored teenager or a fed who's feeling like they want to experiment.

But the fact remains: you're still spewing bullshit in a place which is supposed to be for theoretical discussion, and even if you're trolling, you're still at least partially engaging me on intellectual terms, often reluctantly (which is why you either serve up meme arguments or ad-homs in such a half-arsed manner).

You're stuck, retard.

Why don't you go and join the 'Kekistanis', the /zenpol/ priests or even just say you're NAZBOL GANG GANG GANG GANG GANG GANG GANG

Why do you bother to sit here, being so half-arsed?

Even if you want to troll someone, why pick me?

There's plenty of shit to fuck around with on Discord. Plenty of idiots.

On /leftypol/ too you'll even find an intermittent schizoposter, though I haven't seen the poor sod for at least a week.

```considering you said this, and now are back pedalling makes me not wanting tioo read all the rest of your tl dr
```

Again, ***where the fuck did I say this***?

Are you handicapping yourself? This is what I said: "You have called yourself 'Offender', but it is the Communists who will stomp on everything that you masturbate to."

**Notice how I said "everything that you masturbate to" rather than "you".**

I think you're trolling since you would otherwise have abysmal reading comprehension if you dragged that out of what I said.

Either that or, as I said earlier, you take your idol worship to heart so much that you identify with it and it forms the core of you as a subject.

It's really quite simple. I don't care so much about you. Even the fact that it's *you* and *your* points that I'm engaging with, it's just incidental that it's *you*.

You're not the only reactionary in the world, far from it.

Why the fuck would I want to crush you, stomp on you, or even have others do it for me?

I want to destroy your gods in front of you, and so would almost any other Communist who happens to be dealing with you. Your gods are shared, they are powerful because powerful people believe in them.

```You are not even saying anything concrete you just spout endless jarble with out relation to a concrete topic```

Oh, yeah? And what about *you*, screaming about how certain people are doing this, that and the other with reference to a Natural order which is being attacked, and how we must conform to that Natural order?

Is that concrete, *or is it a stupid fucking abstraction that you've pulled out of your arse and stamped a 'concrete' label on*?

I've seen this shit before so many times among so-called 'materialists'. You never fail to disappoint.

```You want other ppl doing your work, this is why you like communis,```

If I wanted that, I would not be a Communist at all. If I wanted other people to do things for me in the way that you're implying, then I would throw all the fucking responsibility to them and delegate things that everyone would be better off having me deal with to other people.

But then I would not only lose some of my control unless I have loyal servants to do my bidding and enforce it...

...I would in fact *lose some control too*. In the face of a proletarian tide, I'd be *fucked* if I couldn't keep the masses underneath me in an appropriate order.

I'd need to throw resources into a war of attrition against the enraged masses. I would not be fighting against unwilled processes, but *willed* ones.

But even then, your accusation means fuck all. I am a participant in capitalism, like you. I live off other people's work - the clothes that they've made, the giant systems that they've built. My worldview was shaped mostly by what others have said.

The same is most likely true for you too. Did you build your computer? Who made your home?

However, I cannot realise a great deal of my goals without slaving away. I am a NEET, but I don't enjoy a life of luxury.

You'll say 'I knew it!', but you too are a bloodsucker in the same way that I am - your only excuse is that you give back in some way. But whose way? And for *what*?

And can you really escape using the work of others in a more general sense? No, you cannot.

I don't want other people 'doing my work', I want them to work with me if I so choose.

Others may be able to help me if needs be.

I have a lot to learn, and others know things that I don't, hence for the time being they'd fit various roles better. That is not to say that I accept that those roles must exist indefinitely and that I cannot learn how to fulfil those roles.

What are you going to claim now? Trotsky was a bloodsucker because he sent the Red Army to work for him and many more Russians?

And what of students and white collar workers?

You're going to dismiss all of them because... *they don't live up to your blue-collar ideology for whatever reason*?

What about political organisers?

>MUH JOOS

Why give a shit?

Even if the Communist movement, let alone the Soviets, was composed of ethnic Jews by 100%, that wouldn't mean that it's specifically owed to Jewish religion or culture, but rather a reaction by them to the cultures which were brought up with alongside other circumstances.

Are you trying to prove some kind of biological determinism?

Worse, even if the Rothschilds bankrolled the Russian revolution, so what?

Why not suck the blood from vampire financiers and use it to fuel a raging movement which ultimately aims to destroy them?

How can you even prove that the Rothschilds *controlled* the revolution, too?

Even if they financed it, that does not mean that they controlled it.

For a supposed Communist, you parrot so much reactionary propaganda. Maybe, as I keep saying, you're not a Communist at all.

It seems to be just you here in this server that's saying most of this shit, too: a resident child.

Nevertheless, your crap must be answered...

That's not what I said.

The fact that Jews might ever become Communists would amount to "a reaction by them to the cultures which were brought up with alongside other circumstances".

It necessitates their abandonment of their religion and their culture as Communists, but politically they may advocate movements which are not atheistic in the most immediate circumstances.

I am not a legend, I am an incredibly angry person. I am *sick* of the 'history' which right-wingers pride themselves on, their cringe graphics, their use of sources which may or may not be p-hacked and subject to all sorts of statistical wizardry.

I loathe the degeneracy of reactionaries and their refusals to carry their philosophies to extremes.

Can't even manage a basic Hegelian-ish exercise half the fucking time.

Sources for your history or get out.

```i think you are trolling as you imply shit then say you dondt said it```

No, you're literally twisting my words and dragging things out of them which I've been careful to avoid. But it's okay, you can just call me 'triggered' and suddenly transform into a screeching rainbow-haired false leftist ape. This is not /pol/, where you can get away with saying shit like this and have a crowd of children who will agree with you and laugh as your opponents get tired of you lobbing buzzwords and dogwhistles at them.

Tell me where I said that the aim of Communists is to automatically destroy you, stomp on you and all of that. **I said that we'd crush your gods, the shit that you masturbate to.** After you responded by misrepresenting what I said, I then said that __if you insist on keeping your gods__, then yes, we will have to destroy you.

Your 'no u' doesn't work, and frankly you're making yourself look retarded.

```you think im right winged
you think in sides of a french room
you have no insight you dont understand what i say and going by the bullshit you spout this is simply how your mind works.```

Okay Macron.

Even if I am using the wrong terminology, I can still correctly say that *you are a reactionary*. There is indeed a binary here between those who wish to obliterate not just the current state of affairs but any continued state of affairs which we could possibly take for granted and those who insist on affirming that there is an order which we must conform to.

I am not saying that reactionaries are homogeneous, or even that Communists are homogeneous either.

I am choosing a fence to lay down and you fall squarely on one side of it, along with all of the others who stand against the principles of Communism.

You either make Communism your unconditional pursuit with regards to our current world or you do not. My point is that *you're not doing that*.

That you are different from a liberal is not my main concern. You are in fact a third-positionist, but as far as Communists give a shit, *you are still a political foe*. That's what I'm trying to get at.

I am not even saying that you cannot be anything besides a foe, before you chime in. I'm saying that right now, you are one. You are a reactionary ideologue.

'deserves'

It's more to do with necessity than desert.

There are certain degrees of understanding which a Communist might have of Communism, of course: they might still hold reactionary beliefs, but it's how they react to being shown that they're reactionary which is what matters.

I can understand this through understanding how they deal with relatively-uncontroversial principles of the Communist project and whatever actually follows from them.