https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RvIV-hId3c

@Duke of Mecklenburg lol i own a mosin and i have literally beat the stupid thing open. I still love it though

Sargon on Jess Philips

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xNLxtZR850

yes considering theres millions of them and they arent really great rifles

granted most are rusted pieces of shit

>like mine

thats a dank ass sword, but wouldnt it also do a flat +3 damage as well?

das allota damage

I bought my mosin for like 130 bucks. Totally worth.

It’s a fireball launcher

military police in training, fully plan on sawing off that mosin and sending 7.62 article 15's to privates

yes its what an officer does

fighting is for the help

this is why i dont play high level campaigns

its like handing all my players nukes and expecting anything but tears

What in tarnation is your DM even doing lol

Why do you even have 200k golf

level 5 with that much conquest? should be like 15-20 if youve taken over an entire empire XD

https://www.dndarchive.com/forums/depth-roleplay-qa/character-wealth-level

show him that. its technically for 3.5/pathfinder but i cant imagine it would be out of place in 5e

>or you could play pathfinder which is much better <:trumped:440551399772913674>

dude theyre a blast. Get some mates who are sharp (but not like *too* nerdy) and give it a try. even better drunk off your ass

just dont show up in costume. thats weird.

Keep in mind that also includes the value of items. @MountainMan so like a +1 sword with an equivalent enchantment should eat up around 2k of their “gold budget.” I have no idea how that works in 5e though.

Chadfinder is best edition

Convert your 5e buddies. Outchad them

I would say that sounds broken but 3.5 has its own balance issues if you don’t plan carefully as a DM.

That. That’s actually a really good way to compare the editions. I’ve played a little 5e and don’t care for it because it isn’t nearly as flexible as 3.5/pathfinder. It also seems to really punish multiclassing.

Multiclassing is the fun part. Shit like Master Thrower/Rogue or other fun gish types don’t seem like they can be recreated. Which is why 3.5 is my favorite. Way more ability to create a unique character (or at least feel like it)

I always found poison to be too expensive as a player. Granted I don’t get to play much, only DM.

Archetypes are the core of the edition, which is why I don’t like it. You’re set on rails from the word go.

Wait there’s no ability damage in 5e at all!?

>absolute disbelief

What good is offensive necromancy then?

Tbh I never give enemies any kind of instant kill. Shit is straight up anti-fun. “Oh bill you’re just dead, roll a new toon.”

I use a kind of Left 4 Dead system. If everyone is KO’d then everyone dies. I’ve only killed maybe 3 characters otherwise and that’s because they did something catastrophically retarded like try to be Indiana Jones in full plate.

5e does seem like way more of a power trip. Low AC combined with shitting out Xd10 damage on a cantrip.

Too young have to played 2e, but from what I’ve been told it sounds overly harsh.

Thac0 is like call of Cthulhu right? Roll low to win kinda deal.

Oh wait I didnt even know Pathfinder was putting out a second edition, I thought you were implying it was something else. Holy shit my day is made

I’m sure as shit gonna have to look into it.

screw the lore, i make my own anyway

they can write whatever bullshit they want i just need numbers to go by

honestly if anyone here has access to the playtest rules and table top sim im down to test it, even if we dont have a full party.

@Goblin_Slayer_Floki

fuckin sweeeeeeeet

and no ive only played 5th because i dont really want to DM it

ive also never used a premade campaign. ive homebrewed every campaign so far using a gameworld ive created over the years. Its works for me at least, especially when an NPC comes back to a new party 20 years older. always gets a positive reaction.

Eating a creature alive when there is no reason to do so is evil. Doing so for survival of when the creature is alive arguably chaotic. When the creature is dead and you’re starving to death, who cares?

Usually I define evil as sadism. If it’s just “gross”, it’s chaotic or a character doing something they wouldn’t normally do out of desperation.

Take canibalism. If you eat someone alive when theres a supermarket right next to you, youre a dick (evil). If you eat a dead guy you arent really hurting anyone, youre just kinda weird (choatic). If you have no other option, trapped on an island and your mate just died, do what you gotta do (neutral). If you'd rather starve to death instead of eat your mate, youre either a pussy or have principles (lawful).

@galesteppes

there isnt really a "good" option in there, but good doesnt usually need defined. Its just alturism or sacriface.

So i got ahold of the PF2 playtest book

some of this i like, some of this angers me sexually

multiclassing is DOA it looks like

as in not even included outside of a mechanic theyre still working on

the upside is that the feat system means that there are other ways to get weird concepts in, so its not all lost. But to be honest i dont see why multiclassing got the axe so hard in 5e and now PF2

i noticed that too, but you get literally dozens of the things

feats are like candy

if thats an issue ill have to see it come out in play. from the looks of it, i dont think thatll be an issue

which is why im REALLY hoping that you can spend those feats to effectively multiclass because, as it stands, there is no way to do so at all outside of preset archtypes that arent even done and will likely be rail roaded

sorta kinda? The thing is now that feats are typed and locked. For example fighter feats were just combat feats anyone could take previously. Well, now theyre just options for the fighter that are unique TO the fighter. I imagine theres some overlap (havent looked at all of them yet), but if it does what i think itll do, you can really build a fighter you want

havent gotten there yet let me look

>wtf is this shit

thats getting tossed in my games lol thats retarded

trying so hard not to make charisma a dump stat is what that is

gish classes are already MAD as hell, it doesnt need to be worse

granted ability points are also fire hosed out in this edition

~~i like that humans arent manditory anymore lol~~

looks like they still have the best racial feats though

~~previously, the addition of an extra feat at level one and skill points out the ass made them way too good to play anything else imo. This is way better balanced.~~

im seeing a lot of these are a joke though. +1 to attack against enemy X or 5 extra movement speed? lol might never even fight enemy X so fuck that noise.

nevermind humans are still insane

is it just me or is armor gonna be totally worthless?

@galesteppes

nevermind i didnt read that right

i was thinking that AC was gonna be stupidly low, didnt factor in training

only fighter gets power attack now. ouch.

@Goblin_Slayer_Floki yeah that sounds like a great way of saying “you’re ass is getting railroaded”.

Cantrips are back, but every class has the same max number of spells per spell slot. 3. On the surface that sounds like way too little but I haven’t gone over every inch of the class pages yet so they might get other stuff outside of that.

So far I’ve noticed that general feats from previous editions are now class specific. Only fighter gets power attack. Only barb gets cleave. Only rogue gets dex to damage feats and so on. Personally I absolutely despise the idea of Barbarian and Paladin not getting power attack.


Action econ is totally reworked. You get three actions in a turn, and they can all be used to do stuff. Spells usually take up two actions. Multiple attacks in a round come at -5 and -10 respectively. Considering that AC scales at a 1 to 1 with level now I’m not even seeing fighters pulling off multiple attacks on NPCs that are their level, but will absolutely obliterate trash mobs like town guards or criminal goons.

>worthy of note in my games I use mostly humanoid enemies, so that’s an important metric for me

Skill system looks goofy. I don’t like it. Scales 1 to 1 with level + a flat bonus if you’re trained to some degree or -4 if you aren’t.

Proficiently kinda works like 5e but there’s four or so levels right? Untrained to mastered. This applies to damn near everything. Weapons, armor, skills and for monks being unarmored. So if you’re a level 5 dude wearing plate armor, your armor bonus is 10 if you’re trained. Heavy armor is gonna be a meme in this edition I can already tell.

Like somehow plate armor is nearly as protective as....cloth. Ish. Depending.

Makes monks have good AC though.

Comparatively at least

Shoulda just stuck with the old skill point system.

No point in dex fighters unless you’re going to be an archer it looks like.

I will say though, with the reworked action econ I can see a lot of potential for battlemages to be a ton of fun.

Wonder how grappling works.

This why I’m going guard and ROTC. If the army needs me they can call me, otherwise fuck off while I do my own thing.

Wut

Do fighters get that many attacks that early?

>slapped

Dropping six attacks on a goon. Bitch. Slapped.

@Legiondude I'll have you know that my ROTC batt has AT LEAST a 50% APFT pass rate <:thronk:441701565607444482>

And ONLY most of those passing are around 180.
The rest are 300 PT stud weirdos, one of which runs his 2 mile in 10 minutes. He’s a fuckin freak of fuckin nature.

it is. officers are retarded.

well i can tell you that theyre a hell of a lot more selective than the army. i think their OTC only passes around 1/3rd of applicants. Army is like 84 percent lol

thankfully weve gotten new and better cadre in my program that are actually worth a damn, i suspect it will be much better in the coming semesters.

^

My first year was entirely student lead because all the cadre quit or somethin. It was one Lt Col. doing the work of like 5 people and tasking stuff to students way before they could handle it.