so that's what I'm curious about

Never got around to building it, so we'll never know

<:think_woke:378717098681171988>

Closest was the HL 295(?) family used for the French heavies in the postwar

Considering how mediocre some of the French production was after WW2

Leaves you wondering.

The M4A2 in WT is the diesel variant, with 100-150 less horsepower than the other M4s

And because torque is modelled so poorly, it's absolutely gutless

especially gutless when trying to turn (or do *anything) at low speeds, for bonus irony

@Legiondude You got Combat Mission? You should.

I love how <#383108664380227595> became #tanks

Can't help that I'm a tank nerd

fucking tankie

Used to make corrections to posts on /r/tankporn for the most minute details wrong

Like mixing up a KV-13 with an IS No. 2

I guess that's why you got a tank for your pfp then

There was no M4A5, it was a slot saved for the Canadian's Ram tank

What are these notes *for*?

@M4Gunner
https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/201269-us-shermans-are-ridiculous/&page=3&tab=comments#comment-3868239

``` And the whole Tommy-cooker/Ronson label appears to stem more from incorrect stowage of the ammunition (something the British should've learned to do properly after the Hood incident) and the German practise of shooting up disabled tanks to prevent recovery, rather than the Sherman being catastrophically more prone to catch fire than other tanks. ```

https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/201269-us-shermans-are-ridiculous/&page=16&tab=comments#comment-3967451

```Shermans were called Ronsons because.. because "a flip and it's lit"?



Seriously though, the slogan/tagline in both the picture you linked to and the picture I posted earlier appears to simply be "world's greatest lighter." Besides, weren't Zippos and ZigZags more popular with servicemen?```

wew lad

@M4Gunner what's with the classes my dude

```Cooper never saw combat. He only saw wrecks and damaged tanks. He never paid any attention to any German wrecks, nor leaned anything about them, yet made claims about how much better they were than the Sherman (despite the Sherman being better than most of the German tanks)```

lol

are you taking notes in C++?

use a PDL

what page did you get that screeny from?

It's been entertaining re-reading this, actually

Fuckin' "BADNESS" and his Wehraboo nonsense 🤣

@Reaps where's the wehraboo post?

Just find any posts from BADNESS

or his.. 'father'

who 'teaches at a university'

`and only posts links from wikipedia`

So now I'm a faggot chick?

Hey @Deleted User wassup ayyyyyyy lmao <:pepe_smug:378719408341909506>

dat the fucking alt account tho

"But_whole"

I'll never forget the last big argument I had on War THunder's forums

This guy was telling me that materials from the Bundesarchiv, used by credited tank historians like Hilary Doyle and Walter Spielberger, are propaganda.

Not German propaganda though

It's all planted by the British

To make the Germans feel better about themselves

🤣

I like how Gaijin devs rejected the Tigerfibel as a legtimate source

it's the literal instruction manual for the operation of PV and PVI tanks

If you can find the link to your argument I'd love to read it

heh

I remember why you'd screencap something like that too <:pepe_smug:378719408341909506>

Also lel @ BADNESS and his 'father' NUMBER_SIX making the worst arguments known to mankind

```Then whats your excuse for the battles of Arracourt and Lorriane when the 4th AD out right -beat- 3 Panther Brigades using the 75mm Shermans?```

This makes me laugh in particular because I remember someone arguing how great German tanks were and using Keaserine Pass as his example

Then when Arracourt got brought up he's like "aw nah you can't use that because the German tankers were n00bs"

like, nevermind you cited the first major armoured engagement of the US in the war for your argument

Fucking Wehraboos

*t h a t ' s w h a t I w a s i n t e n d i n g*

It also turned out to be a useful thread

and I remember telling you I was going to dig threads like that up for you, a few weeks back

lol, fuckin' *what*? 🤣

ghetto US tank crew right there

"ayyy u fuckin' boxy-ass motherfucker panzer 4"

M4A1(76): "mah dick be seven inches but y'all Germans only need *three*"

lol

just in case the reference wasn't fucking obvious

mmmmmmmwat

actually, I'll roll with the notion of a seventeen pound dick

US M1 76 is not the same as the British 17Iber

also 17Ibs refers to the weight of the shot

Which, to me, is a dumb way to classify your guns, but whatevs

yes

Brits used the weight of the shot being fired to classify their guns

which, as you can imagine, when you wind up using multiple ammo variants for the same weapon..

🤣

I had to take some liberties to make the joke work

Because I thought you legitimately thought it was seventeen pounds

ANYway

If I recall, when the Comet came into production, they had to refer to the cannon as a '77mm' to make sure that ammo for the 76mm 17Iber and the Comet's 76mm didn't get mixed up

Because they used different ammo

I think the shell casings were longer

I don't think any of them were interchangeable

let's go have a look

17Iber fired 76.2×583mm

can't find the cartridge size for the 77 HV at a glance

however,

```This has the benefit of greater ease of use on tanks, many of which would not have sufficient turret space to accommodate the breech length and recoil distance of the 17-pounder. Similarly, the smaller 3" based ammunition was easier to store and handle in the tank's cramped interior.

This new gun's ammunition was not interchangeable with the 17-pounder, however, and to prevent confusion over ammunition supplies, it was renamed the 77 mm HV—the 'HV' standing for High Velocity—although it was the same 76.2 mm calibre as the 17-pounder.```

Similar with the Germans

KwK40 for the Panzer IV

although they'd change the name of the exact same gun if fitted into something like an assault gun

and then you've got KwK 43 for the long 75

Usually I'll just refer to german weapons as 'long' or 'short' variants

eg long 88

But you can use the L/ designation too

eg 88 L56 for the Tiger I's 88mm

and L/71 for the Tiger II's 88mm

basically the higher that number, the longer the barrel is relative to the calibre of the weapon

Also