A human can survive a few minutes in space

wrong

how do you know she wasn't trained in the thirty fucking years between

and she spent most of the rest of the movie in a coma

because the movie doesn't tell us mate

how do you know that she *was* trained in the thirty fucking years between

Does the movie have to tell Luke that he can force-pull his saber towards him?

If Newtonian physics applied, Luke would have been crushed by his ship's weight while lifting it.

He had zero training to do that!

How does he know that's a thing?

he doesn't!

and yet he does it!

have you seen MauLer's review of TLJ?

go watch it

on instinct!

and you will understand why your arguments are shit

I can't be bothered arguing it properly with you

it's 1am, I have better shit to do

Luke didn't force-pull his saber until after Yoda trained him.

Nigga what

What about the ice cave

right BEFORE he was told to go meet yoda

What fucking movie did you watch

Oh, that.

TLJ is a garbage movie with inconsiquential plots where things don't matter and fans will defend it to the teeth because it's not the prequels

His only use of force before that was a bullshit bomb-redirect at the death star and deflecting some lasers

So how did he know?

clearly he's a bad character

you really need to watch MauLer's videos man

Are you actually comparing a weak force pull to being able to fight a well trained dark side user?

We don't know how much training he got from Ben.

Are you fuckin' retarded

because you cannot see how bullshit your argument is

it's just whataboutism

>We don't know how much training

with no justification as to why it's ok when *your* guys do it

THEN HOW DO YOU KNOW LUKE DIDN'T RAIN LEIA FORCE SHIT

they had thirty fucking years

Why would you think she *wouldn't* learn some shit?

BECAUSE THAT'S A FAIRLY IMPORTANT DEVELOPMENT THAT THE MOVIE WOULD HAVE AT LEAST HINTED AT

TFA went out of its way to tell us Han and Leia divorced ffs

She's a force user, and was in the original trilogy for sensing shit

The whole ice cave thing was an improv because Mark got into a car accident, and ended up with a scar.

but

you telling me that TLJ couldn't even bother to mention something much more important than that?

the lightsaber pull wasn't a required part of that DKO

that didn't need to be there but it was

Ah yes, the famous forcefield Force move

they gave luke new powers without obvious foreshadowing

oh the noes

Pulling a light saber is a parlor trick.

whatever shall we do

https://youtu.be/vw7pcCj0ORk @King Canuck just go watch this mate

Yeah that force trick was absolute shit

your argument is shit
these videos will explain why

holy fuck why is it six hours

because it takes more time to unpack bullshit than it takes to say it

and he is unpacking a *lot* of bullshit

and longform is kinda his thing

that too

https://youtu.be/j8ankRpDiXA

@nic schooling a nigga on why tlj is complete garbage I see

I prefer the term "native nabooian"

So one of the points in part 1 I already agree with, and have always agreed wiht

"why do we care about these sides?"

```DKO GamerGator - Today at 1:02 AM
Rey can probably lift an entire planet with the Force by now```

Did anyone read Jedi Academy? Good trilogy right up to the end

At which point Mara Jade *force-pushes the entire Imperial fleet away from the planet they were attacking*

I've heard that the new between-lore has a bunch of cool stories about the new republic smushing what's left of the empire but having a hard time of it, allowing it to exist in pockets

and on how Leia's status as a politician of importance was shattered once the truth about her father was #Leaked by someone

I haven't heard much about Luke's new order, though.

Yeah, I think I would've much preferred a trilogy about the between-years, but ford, hamill, and fisher were too old for that

Regardless of the objective failures, though, I enjoy a good spectacle movie and TLJ and TFA had some great scenes that I can still enjoy.

IMO the one huge change that should've been made in TLJ is that

you can keep Holdo as this other general who's important

but let Ackbar do the suicide jump

It's a mon calamari ship ffs

*t h e n d o n ' t m a k e t h e m o v i e s*

Have him say that the resistance is surrendering, and spin the ship around to be boarded, but just as he's about to jump the first order computers detect that the ship's charging lightspeed

And if you wanna *do the thing*, have Hux say that it's a trap and then have Ackbar blow the snokemobile clean in half, down the middle

interesting point you raise

and maybe have the *whole thing* get destroyed as Rey and Kylo duke it out

Because the lore behind the 'new' universe helps to make sense of all the questions that were raised in the movies

Except you shouldn't need to know all that shit in order for the *films to make sense in the first place*

It's information that we needed *in* the movies, obviously.

:/

Maybe dedicate a nice quiet scene in TFA to Leia talking to Finn and maybe Poe about the first order

before the rescue mission but not so close to it as to make it seem like a weird stop

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takl about how the empire was harder to get rid of than just destroying one battle station, and that the republic refused to become a new empire and so allowed chunks of it to survive

"ohhh, so the Republic is cool and actually 'in power' but you've got this kinda-covert ops thing going on with 'the resistance' against what are supposed to be remnants of the Empire that exist in various sectors or something, cool"

*meanwhile in the film*

THE NEW ORDER IS ALL-POWERFUL AND ENCOMPASSING, SWEEPING ASIDE PETTY REBEL RESISTANCE, AND STRONG ENOUGH TO HAVE DEVELOPED AN ENTIRE PLANET THAT SHOOTS LAZ0R BEEEEMS

and from those chunks the first order came in

prequels > sequels

Okay no, but it's very close.

there's actually a cool idea about where Starkiller base came from

```The problem with the political scenes in the prequels wasn't the political scenes themselves; it's that they were jarringly displaced by all the other elements that tried to market the films at a younger and younger audience; in that sense it was like the prequels didn't know to whom they were trying to appeal (or a more classic case of trying to appeal to everybody and thus not being particularly appealing to anybody)```

yeah true

>there's actually a cool idea about where Starkiller base came from

BIGGAR DESTH STAR

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the thought is that Starkiller base was a planet that the Jedi once used to mine Kyber Crystals, hence the supercannon that uses kyber tech

yes, this is an old theory